Zen or Hi Opt I/II w/side count aces

zengrifter

Banned
How about if we compare -

(2D)

HO2 w/ASC
vs
ZEN w/7SC (MP playing adjustments)

ALSO

HO2 w/ASC (ASC betting efficiency reduced by 50%)
vs
ZEN w/NO SC
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
Ya got me.:) I'd have to sim it. But, it doesn't interest me as much as other stuff on my long to-do list.
 
zengrifter said:
How about if we compare -

(2D)

HO2 w/ASC
vs
ZEN w/7SC (MP playing adjustments)

ALSO

HO2 w/ASC (ASC betting efficiency reduced by 50%)
vs
ZEN w/NO SC
On the second, HO2+A will beat any level 2 count in any game even with just an ace density sidecount. Not by more than a couple of percent, but it's undeniably there.

On the first, wouldn't you rather be sidecounting 8's with Zen?
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
Automatic Monkey said:
On the second, HO2+A will beat any level 2 count in any game even with just an ace density sidecount. Not by more than a couple of percent, but it's undeniably there.

On the first, wouldn't you rather be sidecounting 8's with Zen?
Thats what everybody keeps saying, but yet, im the only one who has put 10 different sets of sims up, of CVdata, in the last 10mo, and stand buy it, with a couple of thousand, actively in my pay-pal account, "proving that" ao2 will "in fact" beat ho2, in most games under most conditions. Name your sims?
 
jack said:
Thats what everybody keeps saying, but yet, im the only one who has put 10 different sets of sims up, of CVdata, in the last 10mo, and stand buy it, with a couple of thousand, actively in my pay-pal account, "proving that" ao2 will "in fact" beat ho2, in most games under most conditions. Name your sims?
Oh, looking for bragging rights, huh? ;) S17, DOA, 2/0.5, 1-8 spread.

What happens to the insurance degradation caused by counting the 9 in AO2?
 

jack.jackson

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2deck/S17,Das,75%

These were my first sims. They took about two-hours to complete. The betting strategies I used were

+1/1unit
+2/2units
+3/2x2
+4/4x4

Should I use CVCX optimal spreads. Or try heads up? Any other suggested sims?


 

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