Cipher- The Wizard of BJ

#41
zengrifter said:
I just want LChips to see return of principal CIPHER. zg
You know what the funny thing is here ZEN? Read through that entire diatribe that Liquid Chips has posted here on this site and show me anywhere that I've said that Liquid Chips is not entitled to his principle.

Funnier yet Liquid Chip's brother (the vicious one) says that he's willing to take the principle minus the payment/s paid to Liquid Chips.

This entire thing came apart when Liquid Chip's brother attempted to extort payment from me and it back fired on Liquid Chips and his brother big time. I don't know Liquid Chip's brother, moreover, I've never had any contractual dealings whatsoever with him and I'm certainly under no obligation legal or morale to comply with any of his demands.

Cipher
 
#43
why dont you just send the guy what you owe him , the only reason i can think of you not paying is that your broke ?

Is what i stated above correct , you junkied all your $$ away .

Honestly if it was me you would have caught the beating of your life by now.
 
#44
CIPHER said:
You know what the funny thing is here ZEN? Read through that entire diatribe that Liquid Chips has posted here on this site and show me anywhere that I've said that Liquid Chips is not entitled to his principle.
Okay. Just give him the principal, immediately, and the remaining issue is merely civil, yes? zg
 
#45
zengrifter said:
Okay. Just give him the principal, immediately, and the remaining issue is merely civil, yes? zg
No, there's nothing civil about it ZEN. Tell you what I'm going to be leaving Visalia in about an hour and 10 minutes fo a nice relaxing weekend at the BUICK Invitational.

This is a one time offer good until 3:00 PM Pacific time and it's not negotiable.

I'll agree to pay Liquid Chips (aka Tim Bell) a total of $17,600.00 the sum that is equal to all funds on deposit from the aforementioned Tim Bell with me at the rate of $500.00 (Five Hundred and 00/100's) on the first and fifteenth day of each month until the total sum of $17,600.00 is paid in full to TIM BELL and no others.

You've got an hour.

Cipher

Acceptance of this offer satisfies any and all claims by both parties so long as the terms and conditions are fullfilled as agreed upon.

THIS OFFER IS FORMALLY WITHDRAWN
 
#46
CIPHER said:
No, there's nothing civil about it ZEN. Tell you what I'm going to be leaving Visalia in about an hour and 10 minutes fo a nice relaxing weekend at the BUICK Invitational.

This is a one time offer good until 3:00 PM Pacific time and it's not negotiable.

I'll agree to pay Liquid Chips (aka Tim Bell) a total of $17,600.00 the sum that is equal to all funds on deposit from the aforementioned Tim Bell with me at the rate of $500.00 (Five Hundred and 00/100's) on the first and fifteenth day of each month until the total sum of $17,600.00 is paid in full to TIM BELL and no others.

You've got an hour.

Cipher
If it were me I would agree to principal in full, immediately, or I would go to the Postal Inspector and open a criminal fraud file on CIPHER (a/k/a Bruce Holway). zg(a/k/a Marcus Dalton)

LChips - As you know from my interview I worked undercover with the feds (both FBI and Postal Inspector) for over a year. Would you like a personal referral? If he offers cash principal in full to settle this I advise you take it.
 
#47
zengrifter said:
If it were me I would agree to principal in full, immediately, or I would go to the Postal Inspector and open a criminal fraud file on CIPHER (a/k/a Bruce Holway). zg(a/k/a Marcus Dalton)
Well we both know how solid your knowledge of the law is. Right? Do we need to go there again.

Cipher
 

ScottH

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#48
CIPHER said:
No, there's nothing civil about it ZEN. Tell you what I'm going to be leaving Visalia in about an hour and 10 minutes fo a nice relaxing weekend at the BUICK Invitational.

This is a one time offer good until 3:00 PM Pacific time and it's not negotiable.

I'll agree to pay Liquid Chips (aka Tim Bell) a total of $17,600.00 the sum that is equal to all funds on deposit from the aforementioned Tim Bell with me at the rate of $500.00 (Five Hundred and 00/100's) on the first and fifteenth day of each month until the total sum of $17,600.00 is paid in full to TIM BELL and no others.

You've got an hour.

Cipher
You claim to make at least 500 dollars a sesson (40 hands) using your system. Therefore it should only take you a few hours to come up with the entire 17k and then you can just pay LC in full.

What's the problem with that?

Right now Cipher is probably taking out a loan for 17k and is going to bet it all on one hand of blackjack. Of course he will wait for a switchback or razorback before he does! :laugh:
 
#49
Dont agree to that , file a fraud complaint against him ,

Forget your money , have criminal charges filed against cipher , he will sit in jal a long time. For one thing he cannot afford the bail so he will be stuck there till trial .

Cipher once your in jail i hope a big gay rapist works your ass over. [Actually you would probably enjoy that]

P.S. , not mentioning who i am but i know most of you from other forum or the 10 poker and casino sites an forums that i do own .

P.S.S. Cipher your a scumbag ,and i have made some of my own complaints against you at the casinos you say your program exploits .
 
#50
ScottH said:
You claim to make at least 500 dollars a sesson (40 hands) using your system. Therefore it should only take you a few hours to come up with the entire 17k and then you can just pay LC in full.

What's the problem with that?

Right now Cipher is probably taking out a loan for 17k and is going to bet it all on one hand of blackjack. Of course he will wait for a switchback or razorback before he does! :laugh:
Actually Scotty right now, I'm getting ready to go to LaJolla.

Cipher
 
#51
CIPHER said:
Well we both know how solid your knowledge of the law is. Right? Do we need to go there again.
My knowledge is considerable, having worked with Postal and FBI in an undercover capicity for over a year.
Postal Inspector is the place to go with this. zg
 
#52
kickhisass said:
Dont agree to that , file a fraud complaint against him ,

Forget your money , have criminal charges filed against cipher , he will sit in jal a long time. For one thing he cannot afford the bail so he will be stuck there till trial .

Cipher once your in jail i hope a big gay rapist works your ass over.

P.S. , not mentioning who i am but i know most of you from other forum or the 10 poker and casino sites an forums that i do own .

P.S.S. Cipher your a scumbag ,and i have made some of my own complaints against you at the casinos you say your program exploits .
About the only thing that might own is a bag of pretzels. You're a friggn joke.

Cipher
 
#56
ScottH said:
Wait a minute, weren't you one of Cipher's most enthusiastic supporters a while back? What happened?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you were the guy who said results were not about simulation, but were about constantly having winning sessions. It sounded like you were doing so well with Cipher's software. I'm just curious to how that fell apart.
Oh come on Scott you know how it fell apart. No need to rub it in.

Cipher is rare among phony gambling system promoters in that he is also a direct thief who belongs in prison. He's also apparently a really sick guy, who keeps on coming back to a site like this even though there's not a chance in hell of him making another penny out of it, just because he enjoys gloating over his victims.
 
#57
It would be better to have the morons sites shut down and have him in jail for a while also , If he just gets his money back then some one else is going to get robbed next .
 
#59
zengrifter said:
My knowledge is considerable, having worked with Postal and FBI in an undercover capicity for over a year.
Postal Inspector is the place to go with this. zg
Please ZEN at the very least you need to learn how to spell. Capicity? Gee let me guess, that must have been the time you ratted out the U.S Attorney right?

Cipher
 
#60
Cipher Just an honest question

What happened to all your money ? Did you lose it all using your system , or did you shoot it all up ?

Just wondering if you have a winning system that cannot lose how you are broke.
 
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