kewljason said:
I am heading to Ac in a couple hours. probably won't check out the hilton til 7 or 8 am, when it might be a little slower. just wanted to know the rules, penetration and what ever else you may offer before hand. 
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Where do u mostly play? I usually stay at Borgata, but also play at Taj and Marina, less often at Ballys, Harrahs.
Just noticed the pen improved..
...missed that posting. I think that you will also see other improvements. They are competing with Las Vegas for heavy action. If they are serious, they have to have at least s17. Also, players, even non-ap's, don't like no hole card games because it slows the game down too much. I assume the games are double on anything. If the games are face up, it is because they are primarily concerned about players marking cards in some way. Who cares, gives us more info before acting.
The way the DD games evolve should be an interesting case study.
Jay Cobbson
...missed that posting. I think that you will also see other improvements. They are competing with Las Vegas for heavy action. If they are serious, they have to have at least s17. Also, players, even non-ap's, don't like no hole card games because it slows the game down too much. I assume the games are double on anything. If the games are face up, it is because they are primarily concerned about players marking cards in some way. Who cares, gives us more info before acting.
The way the DD games evolve should be an interesting case study.
Jay Cobbson
Away from Freemont Street you can make a living...
...off of DD games with pretty decent rules and pen and not a great amount of heat if you know what you are doing. They abound in local's casinos and even on the Strip, if you know where to look.
A.C. is not just competing with downtown Las Vegas, but with every casino in Nevada and on the East Coast, with more on the way, not to mention all the casinos opening within driving distance. When Pennsylvania gets its act together and puts in table games hopefully there will be some real competition as long as the owners are different entities after the A.C. shake-up. I have a pretty good feeling you are going to see some great blackjack on the East Coast over the next couple of years.
Jay Cobbson
...off of DD games with pretty decent rules and pen and not a great amount of heat if you know what you are doing. They abound in local's casinos and even on the Strip, if you know where to look.
A.C. is not just competing with downtown Las Vegas, but with every casino in Nevada and on the East Coast, with more on the way, not to mention all the casinos opening within driving distance. When Pennsylvania gets its act together and puts in table games hopefully there will be some real competition as long as the owners are different entities after the A.C. shake-up. I have a pretty good feeling you are going to see some great blackjack on the East Coast over the next couple of years.
Jay Cobbson
Spent about 12 hours in AC today from 3am til mid afternoon. I did make a trip to the southern boardwalk to check out the DD game this morning after sunrise. There was only 1 table open. $100 minimum. There is a second table that was not open that rumor has it was a $25 table, but the shuffler is mysteriously broken on the first day of this new game.
No one was playing the $100 table. Just 3 pit guys standing and waiting. Just didn't look inviting to me so I headed to the northern end of boardwalk for breakfast and then out to the marina districk for the rest of the day. Was not nearly as crowded as I thought it would be for a holiday weekend, and turned into a pretty decent day for me.
I extended my east coast holiday trip 6 days just to check out this game, which I didn't really get a chance to do. I will probably make another day trip down there monday before I head west for the winter, but am not optimistic about this game.
No one was playing the $100 table. Just 3 pit guys standing and waiting. Just didn't look inviting to me so I headed to the northern end of boardwalk for breakfast and then out to the marina districk for the rest of the day. Was not nearly as crowded as I thought it would be for a holiday weekend, and turned into a pretty decent day for me.
I extended my east coast holiday trip 6 days just to check out this game, which I didn't really get a chance to do. I will probably make another day trip down there monday before I head west for the winter, but am not optimistic about this game.
A quick report on the 2deckers
This is a quick 2decker-report in addition to Jason's.
1) Shuffler at table#608 has been removed.
2) Shuffler at table#003 also has been removed.
6 decker games are played at both tables. 2deckers have been suspended until shufflers are repaired & reinserted in both tables.
kewljason said:
Spent about 12 hours in AC today from 3am til mid afternoon. I did make a trip to the southern boardwalk to check out the DD game this morning after sunrise. There was only 1 table open. $100 minimum. There is a second table that was not open that rumor has it was a $25 table, but the shuffler is mysteriously broken on the first day of this new game.
No one was playing the $100 table. Just 3 pit guys standing and waiting. Just didn't look inviting to me so I headed to the northern end of boardwalk for breakfast and then out to the marina districk for the rest of the day. Was not nearly as crowded as I thought it would be for a holiday weekend, and turned into a pretty decent day for me.
I extended my east coast holiday trip 6 days just to check out this game, which I didn't really get a chance to do. I will probably make another day trip down there monday before I head west for the winter, but am not optimistic about this game.
No one was playing the $100 table. Just 3 pit guys standing and waiting. Just didn't look inviting to me so I headed to the northern end of boardwalk for breakfast and then out to the marina districk for the rest of the day. Was not nearly as crowded as I thought it would be for a holiday weekend, and turned into a pretty decent day for me.
I extended my east coast holiday trip 6 days just to check out this game, which I didn't really get a chance to do. I will probably make another day trip down there monday before I head west for the winter, but am not optimistic about this game.
1) Shuffler at table#608 has been removed.
2) Shuffler at table#003 also has been removed.
6 decker games are played at both tables. 2deckers have been suspended until shufflers are repaired & reinserted in both tables.
kewljason said:
Spent about 12 hours in AC today from 3am til mid afternoon. I did make a trip to the southern boardwalk to check out the DD game this morning after sunrise. There was only 1 table open. $100 minimum. There is a second table that was not open that rumor has it was a $25 table, but the shuffler is mysteriously broken on the first day of this new game.
No one was playing the $100 table. Just 3 pit guys standing and waiting. Just didn't look inviting to me so I headed to the northern end of boardwalk for breakfast and then out to the marina districk for the rest of the day. Was not nearly as crowded as I thought it would be for a holiday weekend, and turned into a pretty decent day for me.
I extended my east coast holiday trip 6 days just to check out this game, which I didn't really get a chance to do. I will probably make another day trip down there monday before I head west for the winter, but am not optimistic about this game.
No one was playing the $100 table. Just 3 pit guys standing and waiting. Just didn't look inviting to me so I headed to the northern end of boardwalk for breakfast and then out to the marina districk for the rest of the day. Was not nearly as crowded as I thought it would be for a holiday weekend, and turned into a pretty decent day for me.
I extended my east coast holiday trip 6 days just to check out this game, which I didn't really get a chance to do. I will probably make another day trip down there monday before I head west for the winter, but am not optimistic about this game.
I am sure they determined that shuffling by hand every two minutes would create way too much down time and it would be more cost efficent to go to 6decks. However, I find the whole situation pretty suspicious. At any rate I am so glad I postponed my trip west so I could spend an extra week here in this lovely weather to check out these games. :laugh:
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Why pay royalties, when you can hand shuffle nearly as fast? One house told me that they make out better with the hand shuffle. Some houses have both, maybe because they appeal to different players. Personally I like the inconsistency of the hand shuffle over the rigorous shuffle of the machine. But maybe that's all in my head--I never did a study.
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