Weekend Warriors

Kasi

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sagefr0g said:
seems like every one has thier i wanna play this or that game what ever.
so but ok why not let that be. just who ever plays what game fine. just lets all know who's doing what. sim the games, knock out some bjinfo spreadsheets for them and everyone plays what one they want.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't care if we ahve a multi-cultural, diverse team. Each a specialist in his own game lol.

I don't care if you have quitting points, whatever.

I don't even care if you want to assume a high risk and go for broke.

You want to actually prepare for real life with your own game, roll, in mind. Fine. If having any results analyzed here is helpful, then we'll help. Maybe you'll run a sim before you do play in real life. Maybe you'll run hundreds as things change.

One sim won't ever be the answer in real life. Suddenly that 4.5/6 game is cut to 5/6 or 4/6. That's 2 more sims you can run so you can measure that lol.

Eventually, who knows, some of these chickens may fly the coop and leave Never-Never Land.

Post your own sim and play to it. You want a large roll, well the team will give you one.

If you don't have a sim, at least specify exactly what you want, so we know you know what needs to be answered for any sim. That way you understand the underlying assumptions, the things that will change the original sim and necessitate another sim perhaps.

If we get 3 different games that use Hi-Lo, maybe I'll play one or the other. Maybe some one else will choose to. If it's KO, I can't play it.

It's just practice after all lmao. Ask yourself what you want to learn from it.
How to measure results? How accurate is your counting or index play? What do you want to know and will you know it, when you're done?

If I use card-counting. com I'll never know how accurate my counting is but I'll know my results and hands. If I use other products, I may know more about more things.

Lt Riker, out.

Capt JJ - I want that sim on my desk at 0800.

Oh crap - I'm only the Lt. OK - whenever lol.
 

jack.jackson

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Kasi said:
Took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't care if we ahve a multi-cultural, diverse team. Each a specialist in his own game lol.

I don't care if you have quitting points, whatever.

I don't even care if you want to assume a high risk and go for broke.

You want to actually prepare for real life with your own game, roll, in mind. Fine. If having any results analyzed here is helpful, then we'll help. Maybe you'll run a sim before you do play in real life. Maybe you'll run hundreds as things change.

One sim won't ever be the answer in real life. Suddenly that 4.5/6 game is cut to 5/6 or 4/6. That's 2 more sims you can run so you can measure that lol.

Eventually, who knows, some of these chickens may fly the coop and leave Never-Never Land.

Post your own sim and play to it. You want a large roll, well the team will give you one.

If you don't have a sim, at least specify exactly what you want, so we know you know what needs to be answered for any sim. That way you understand the underlying assumptions, the things that will change the original sim and necessitate another sim perhaps.

If we get 3 different games that use Hi-Lo, maybe I'll play one or the other. Maybe some one else will choose to. If it's KO, I can't play it.

It's just practice after all lmao. Ask yourself what you want to learn from it.
How to measure results? How accurate is your counting or index play? What do you want to know and will you know it, when you're done?

If I use card-counting. com I'll never know how accurate my counting is but I'll know my results and hands. If I use other products, I may know more about more things.

Lt Riker, out.

Capt JJ - I want that sim on my desk at 0800.

Oh crap - I'm only the Lt. OK - whenever lol.
Ahhhhh......ok. I had it all planned out.:cry: Im just ready to get the ball rollin. So whatever works for everybody else, works for me. Maybe sage could start up WW2 today.
 

sagefr0g

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jack said:
Ahhhhh......ok. I had it all planned out.:cry: Im just ready to get the ball rollin. So whatever works for everybody else, works for me. Maybe sage could start up WW2 today.
pirates is a democratic bunch. get over it captain. :p
 

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k_c

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Last update this week

For me my weekend is Thursday and Friday since those are my days off, so this is my last update for this week. (Dead link: http://www.bjstrat.net/Warrior.html) _40 shoes - 1851 rounds_. Basically I'm still behind. I started out badly the first few shoes and haven't as yet recovered. Haven't been losing too badly, though, after the poor start.

PS: I fixed the links in my previous post.
 
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sagefr0g

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jack said:
Ahhhhh......ok. I had it all planned out.:cry: Im just ready to get the ball rollin. So whatever works for everybody else, works for me. Maybe sage could start up WW2 today.
well ok jj but thing is we need to know what each player is gonna be doing.
what game they are going to go against:
rules
number of decks
pen
how many players at the table.
count system they are going to use. maybe how they figure their true count.
indices used or not.
probably i think we need to stay at playing one hand not multiple so we can use Kasi's spread sheet.
probably we should make everyone play all.
then we can make sure everyone has a sim to go by and a spread sheet.
then we'd be ready to start ww2?
am i missing anything?
 
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sagefr0g

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Canceler said:
So we're going with the "everybody do their own thing" plan?
i'm not sure but i think captain jj was gonna set a poll up and maybe we vote on it or vote on something or some how come to an agreement? :confused::eyepatch:
 

Canceler

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sagefr0g said:
i'm not sure but i think captain jj was gonna set a poll up and maybe we vote on it or vote on something or some how come to an agreement? :confused::eyepatch:
That might be good. My vote is that everyone play under the same conditions. Otherwise, we eliminate the competition among ourselves, which I think is half the fun.
 

jack.jackson

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Canceler said:
That might be good. My vote is that everyone play under the same conditions. Otherwise, we eliminate the competition among ourselves, which I think is half the fun.
It seems we think a little alike. However, I think we should leave a window open for newcomers, to come and go as they please. AKA contingency plan.

Keep in mind, were less likely, to get burned out, on a double decker.

I'll draw up a DD and 8decker with a contrast in rules, here in a few minutes. Then well see what the team thinks. Both will be realistic games with good or bad pen, contingent of the rules.
 
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aslan

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Canceler said:
That might be good. My vote is that everyone play under the same conditions. Otherwise, we eliminate the competition among ourselves, which I think is half the fun.
I have my opinions but on the other hand to me Sagefr0g constitutes a majority and I will side with him even against myself. Lol He's a pretty smart dude, and maybe he's on to something in wanting to change things up. I hate votes. I like consensus. And as far as I'm concerned, Weekend Warriors belongs to Sage and JJ. PS--JJ is also a majority. lol
 

jack.jackson

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First lets establish the Basics:No Bonuses or Unusual Variations

1.Option1

2D(-.46)8D(-.71)

DA2,NDAS,H17,Resplitx4,RSAx4(UnlimitedDraw)

66%2D/75%8D


2.Option2

8D(-.35)2D(-.12)

DA2,LSr,DAS,Resplitx4,NRA(1card),S17

75%8D/66%2D


Will Base our spreads on the type of game we play. Personally I like 2D(-.46)66%
 
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sagefr0g

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jack said:
First lets establish the Basics:No Bonuses or Unusual Variations

1.Option1

2D(-.46)8D(-.71)

DA2,NDAS,H17,Resplitx4,RSAx4(UnlimitedDraw)

66%2D/75%8D


2.Option2

8D(-.35)2D(-.12)

DA2,LSr,DAS,Resplitx4,NRA(1card),S17

75%2D/66%8D


Well Base our spreads on the type of game we play. Personally I like 2D(-.46)66%
captain jj. here is a question and if the answer is correct maybe an idea!
lets imagine what ever games 2D, 8D, with what ever rules what ever pen.
but lets stipulate that what ever anyone does the overall advantage the player has over what ever game the player goes against must match the overall advantage the other team players have for the game they play.
so the question would be is that possible. :confused:
if it were possible then who ever could play what ever game desired and we'd all be on equal playing fields. No? Yes? :confused:
 

aslan

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jack said:
First lets establish the Basics:No Bonuses or Unusual Variations

1.Option1

2D(-.46)8D(-.71)

DA2,NDAS,H17,Resplitx4,RSAx4(UnlimitedDraw)

66%2D/75%8D


2.Option2

8D(-.35)2D(-.12)

DA2,LSr,DAS,Resplitx4,NRA(1card),S17

75%8D/66%2D


Well Base our spreads on the type of game we play. Personally I like 2D(-.46)66%
Where can you get unlimited draw on splitting aces?

What is NRA(1 card)? Is that splitting aces only once and only one card to each?
 

Canceler

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jack said:
Personally I like 2D(-.46)66%
I like that one, too. Does RSAx4(UnlimitedDraw) mean split aces to four hands and hit them as many times as we want? I would think that would qualify as an unusual variation, but don't mind me.
 

jack.jackson

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Canceler said:
I like that one, too. Does RSAx4(UnlimitedDraw) mean split aces to four hands and hit them as many times as we want? I would think that would qualify as an unusual variation, but don't mind me.
Ya, I guess it would. And yes, that what it means. Its a fun rule though. I made sure to offset it with tougher rules.

Whats all the other warriors think?

Once determined well decide approrriate and realistic spreads.

KC,gatherer, kasi. sagefrog?
 

jack.jackson

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sagefr0g said:
captain jj. here is a question and if the answer is correct maybe an idea!
lets imagine what ever games 2D, 8D, with what ever rules what ever pen.
but lets stipulate that what ever anyone does the overall advantage the player has over what ever game the player goes against must match the overall advantage the other team players have for the game they play.
so the question would be is that possible. :confused:
if it were possible then who ever could play what ever game desired and we'd all be on equal playing fields. No? Yes? :confused:
Hmmm:confused: The way I see it, Theres 2 type of games. One with good rules and lousy pen or one with Bad rules, and Good pen, for a total of four possibilities. But I imagine, with whatever game you selected, could possibly be compensated/neutralized depending on the spread you used, in effect resulting in the same Expected EV.
 

jack.jackson

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aslan said:
Where can you get unlimited draw on splitting aces?

What is NRA(1 card)? Is that splitting aces only once and only one card to each?
Ya. Okay i threw a little twist in there. They do exist however. Its not a major change in HA

You could however slighty modify it, if desired. Resplitx4,1 card or Split once(x2)Unlimited draw
 
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