16 (three or more cards) vs 7 thru A; always hit?
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The basic strategy engine answered most of my questions; turns out I was playing a lot of hands wrong! With six decks, dealer hitting on soft 17 and no hole card (only original bets lost) I should be doing:
A8 vs 6 = double down (instead of standing)
A7 vs 2 = double down (instead of standing)
11 vs A = double down (instead of hitting)
88 vs 10,A = hit (instead of splitting)
Anyone have any contrary opinions on these hands?
Also, I've searched the forum and can't find the answer to my question regarding hitting on 16 (with three or more cards) vs 7 thru A (when not card counting). People always seem to frown at me when I do this, am I doing something wrong?
A8 vs 6 = double down (instead of standing)
A7 vs 2 = double down (instead of standing)
11 vs A = double down (instead of hitting)
88 vs 10,A = hit (instead of splitting)
Anyone have any contrary opinions on these hands?
Also, I've searched the forum and can't find the answer to my question regarding hitting on 16 (with three or more cards) vs 7 thru A (when not card counting). People always seem to frown at me when I do this, am I doing something wrong?
The way I've always played those multicard hard 16's against a "made" hand by the dealer (7-A) is to hit them. A hard 16 is a hard 16 whether made up of 2 cards or 7 cards. However, as stated over and over again on the forum here, your odds are only 1% better if you hit any hard 16 than if you don't. That play is NOT going to make or break you no matter what you do.
I'll add an exception that's easy to remember. With 16vT, stand if your hand has 3 cards or more. The 16vT hit/stand decision is a very close call, and this rule of thumb is quite effective in knowing when it is best to deviate from basic strategy (which says hit all 16s vs a ten).
So, you'd hit (Ten,6), but stand with (Ten,4,2).
So, you'd hit (Ten,6), but stand with (Ten,4,2).
Ken, does your rule of thumb on multiple card 16's apply only against a dealer T (ten?)
We did talk a little in another thread quite some time ago about a "rule of 45" meaning don't hit if your hand contains either a 4 or 5. Also mentioned was looking at the cards in play on the hand. If there are more faces on the table than low cards, hit, else stand. It's such a close call. You are going to lose the hand more times than not no matter what you do.
We did talk a little in another thread quite some time ago about a "rule of 45" meaning don't hit if your hand contains either a 4 or 5. Also mentioned was looking at the cards in play on the hand. If there are more faces on the table than low cards, hit, else stand. It's such a close call. You are going to lose the hand more times than not no matter what you do.
The rule only applies to 16vTen. Always hit 16v9, 16v8, 16v7 unless you are counting cards and use the appropriate index number to sometimes stand.
Yes gg, there's a mathematical basis for this 3-cards-in-the-hand rule. By definition, any 16 with 3 or more cards has at least one card in your hand that you'd like to be able to draw as the next card. That's enough to swing this very close call of 16vT.
Yes gg, there's a mathematical basis for this 3-cards-in-the-hand rule. By definition, any 16 with 3 or more cards has at least one card in your hand that you'd like to be able to draw as the next card. That's enough to swing this very close call of 16vT.