1st time try out!

standard toaster said:
IN arguement youtbe and myspace videos also are full of martingale progression systems that are fully supporded by its viewers. The people on those sites sadly do not know what they are in for. They will believe anything about gambling that seems logical and like it may work.

My count is NOT a Martingale progression system! Is this place the Twilight Zone?
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sneakykid said:
First time I tried counting I didn't do too bad, you need to go when the casinos are slow....I try to go in the mornings on week days, I tired it on a Saturday night and it was too noisy and pack





when you say count down the deck less than 30 seconds...can you count by 2 cards? or you suppose to do it 1 by 1?
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under 30 one by one,in pair's i havnt timed myself but im almost positive it's under 30.
 
I'll tell you JSTAT I only watched your first video and you had me laughing so hard I was crying. I don't put much credibility in your system, but if you wanted to take that act on the road I'd pay to see it. On a more serious note I was wondering do you have any idea what your advantage is at any point while you're playing? Do you have a set betspread or kind of make it up as you go? Why are you so proud of not being able to play? I'm more proud of being a successful player with longevity than being banned everywhere. I would not use casino barrings as an inspirational teaching point. By the way you are way off about your stats on at least 1 of the MIT teams. They made much more than the $700,000 you claim. As a matter of fact they made half a million in just one Superbowl weekend. And the players that I know from that team, did not give back their money. Some even still play to this day, strange how they can yet you can't.

As a note to rounder13, if you are too nervous to play don't. What I mean is if you're too nervous to play properly, don't. You will need confidence and the ability to either ignore or handle people at the table. As an AP you will usually be playing differently then the average player sitting next to you. That will bother many and they will let you know about it. You need to be able to play your game strongly without fear of others. You cannot let rude people intimidate you into playing their game. Play what is right, and be confident that what you're doing is right. If you already get nervous in crowds, the casino is not going to be easy. Not impossible though. Once you have learned a system thoroughly, it may give you the confidence to not be anxious at least in this environment. It may take time, don't rush it. There is nothing wrong with setbacks and planned losing, its ill prepared failure that devastate new AP's, that and bad systems. Beware.
 
JSTAT said:
standard toaster said:
IN arguement youtbe and myspace videos also are full of martingale progression systems that are fully supporded by its viewers. The people on those sites sadly do not know what they are in for. They will believe anything about gambling that seems logical and like it may work.

My count is NOT a Martingale progression system! Is this place the Twilight Zone?
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I know its not a progression. I was not claiming it to be any type of voodoo strategy. What i was saying is that having a possie of youtubers and myspacers is not always something to count on. Look at the progression systems and see how many people support them, thousands and thousands! Yet I can prove in just a couple min how it is a terrible idea. Just because someone who knows nothing about counting supports you does not mean its right.

Again im not trying to pick on your system or play im just asking questions and critiquing it. If you can answer all our questions and prove it works well then I am exremely sorry and offer a full apology.

Bojack1 said:
As a note to rounder13, if you are too nervous to play don't. What I mean is if you're too nervous to play properly, don't. You will need confidence and the ability to either ignore or handle people at the table. As an AP you will usually be playing differently then the average player sitting next to you. That will bother many and they will let you know about it. You need to be able to play your game strongly without fear of others. You cannot let rude people intimidate you into playing their game. Play what is right, and be confident that what you're doing is right. If you already get nervous in crowds, the casino is not going to be easy. Not impossible though. Once you have learned a system thoroughly, it may give you the confidence to not be anxious at least in this environment. It may take time, don't rush it. There is nothing wrong with setbacks and planned losing, its ill prepared failure that devastate new AP's, that and bad systems. Beware.
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This JSTAT is why i suggested bonus whoring to rounder. I am not discouraging him from attempting to count but i am discouraging him from going out there at a disadvantage and risking lots of hard earned money. I think bonus whoring is a good way for him to play at home have fun and make some money. Its still being an ap, there are many different forms, you dont have to count to win.
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JSTAT said:
Arnold Snyder told me that my blackjack count is valid. Dog Hand and prizecar of Stanford Wong's BJ21 said that my count is valid. What's the matter with this group?
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"Valid" is a cop-out term. Sure, it's better than not counting at all, but that's not saying much; just about any scheme is better than nothing. But I'll remind you that it was clearly demonstrated here and on other boards that it's inferior to just about every other system out there.

Please provide any evidence at all that this is even comparable to simple counts like Hi-Lo (which you called fraudulent), much less superior. You can't do it. Also, please elaborate on why you claim that your still-unpublished "mathematics" is superior to - while still being at odds with - simulation results.
 
your credibility goes through the roof when you make plays like hitting a A6 against a 4... With indices like that im pretty sure your at a disadvantage!

Especially in a +7 count(at the time that you hit it was +9, even though you somehow got +4?!?!). Something tells me you haven't been doing this for 20 years, because it seems to me it would be pretty tough to lose the count that badly between hands, and then completely forget basic strategy. But what do I know, maybe this is "the power of JSTATII". I don't think im gonna bash hi-lo yet.
 
itrack said:
your credibility goes through the roof when you make plays like hitting a A6 against a 4... With indices like that im pretty sure your at a disadvantage!

I was using northern Nevada rules. No soft doubling allowed. The indices were correct.

JSTAT
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Anyone that feels uncomfortable re: casino crowds, noise, etc. CLEARLY shouldn't
be eager to put their money at risk at a game that they hardly understand.
 
i'm always fairly nervous when i first enter a joint and first sit down at some table. i think it's just a normal adrenaline sort of thing.

the wongin out blues
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adrenaline pumpin
my heart is thumpin
while i'm walkin
to the table
control these jitters if i'm able
now i see them just like before
dealers, dealing, i know the score
that's why i'm reluctant to take a seat
the reason for this high heart beat
pit boss's about and lurkin
is that a smile or are they smirkin
chips are flying
the players playing
eventually i have to sit
my mind is in a fit
all this AP stuff i know
where on earth did it go?
awkwardly, hands trembling a bit
wallet out, drop a benny my chips to get
now it's time to make a bet
cards come splaping down across the felt so green
now i've got some cards i've seen
highs and lows and in between
the hands i lose and win
thats not the point i think as my head does spin
come on dealer drop them babies, bring them out
make me laugh and want to shout
what's this just a trickle?
not enough to raise a nickle
out the tens, they come a marchin
for those babies my soul is left a parchin
i've made a dime
and in the pack are those babies, makes me think it is time
the dealer for me my bet to make does await
i'm not about to take the bait
my chips i push foward on the table saying i'm done for now
but i'll be back as a player raises his brow
maybe the next table will bring those babies home to me
those are the cards i'd love to see
nice and early hard and heavy all along
the dealer calls out my black chip and those two nickles strong
no longer trembling i walk away, i'm feelin plucky
just made a dime, all it was, i was lucky.
 
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