3 New Casinos in AC 2010-2013

[BJinNJ]

Pinnacle, Revel and MGM plan huge new casinos in AC over the
next 3-5 years. More competition==> better games?

BJinNJ

 

[Sonny]

More competition==> better games?

Incompetent Management ==> probably not.

I would guess it will be more of the same.

-Sonny-

 

[21forme]

With AC revenues down ~20% in recent months, due to neighboring state's competition, it's hard to believe all these places will survive.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

With AC revenues down ~20% in recent months, due to neighboring state's competition, it's hard to believe all these places will survive.

If they got some decent transportation down there, they might. That means a legitimate electric train to/from NYC. New Yorkers will love it- get on a train in the city, 90 minutes later you're on the Boardwalk. Some air service would help too.

As it stands now, you're looking at a 4-5 hour traffic nightmare in your own car or on a filthy crowded bus.

 

[shadroch]

If they got some decent transportation down there, they might. That means a legitimate electric train to/from NYC. New Yorkers will love it- get on a train in the city, 90 minutes later you're on the Boardwalk. Some air service would help too.

As it stands now, you're looking at a 4-5 hour traffic nightmare in your own car or on a filthy crowded bus.

Please. From my house in Queens,it's between a 2 1/2 to 3 hour trip by car,unless you're an idiot and decide to go at rush hour.
I've taken the 10 PM bus from the Port Authority to Caesars,checked in and been gambling by midnite on several occasions.Don't go on a holiday weekend or at rush hour and chances are you'll get your own row.
There is air service from Long Island,but I don't know the details. It's been a long time since I played enough there to get free flights and never looked into the paid ones.
A train from NY to AC is supposed to begin this spring,but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[EasyRhino]

If MGM implements the rules found at their better Vegas shoe games, that would be a marked improvement for AC.

However, it seems that AC rules have settled into a weird equilibrium of crapulence, and I don't know what it will take to dislodge it.

 

[21forme]

A train from NY to AC is supposed to begin this spring,but I'm not holding my breath.

I use NJTransit (NE Corridor line) when we go into Manhattan for a weekend daytrip, etc. It's quick, reliable and relatively inexpensive. I don't see why their shore line would be any different.

However, it seems that AC rules have settled into a weird equilibrium of crapulence, and I don't know what it will take to dislodge it.

True, though a few more 6D games have been sprouting recently. I can see the new guys start off with the usual, crappy AC games and get busy just because they're new and shiny. Then, the older places will try some better games to bring people back.

 

[shadroch]

I've done the Jersey Transit/Phil Spectra(?)/ Philly-AC train run and it takes forever,and is more expenive than just taking the 'Hound.
There is a lot of talk of having a dedicated NYC-Philly-AC one stop express that is subsidized by the casinos.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Please. From my house in Queens,it's between a 2 1/2 to 3 hour trip by car,unless you're an idiot and decide to go at rush hour.
I've taken the 10 PM bus from the Port Authority to Caesars,checked in and been gambling by midnite on several occasions.Don't go on a holiday weekend or at rush hour and chances are you'll get your own row.
There is air service from Long Island,but I don't know the details. It's been a long time since I played enough there to get free flights and never looked into the paid ones.
A train from NY to AC is supposed to begin this spring,but I'm not holding my breath.

I realize all that, but most of us don't have the luxury of heading down to AC at 11 AM on Tuesday. Rush hour is rush hour for a reason. A train would make it a nice trip.

 

[shadroch]

Agreed. I'm hoping for a heavily subsidized train,hopefully with casino style cocktail service.

 

[aslan]

Pinnacle, Revel and MGM plan huge new casinos in AC over the
next 3-5 years. More competition==> better games?

BJinNJ

It would be great if MGM were allowed to return to AC. As you probably know, the former NJ Gaming Commission banned MGM from doing business in NJ. MGM had to give up its half interest in the Borgata. The banning was because of their business involvement with mob people in China. Perhaps now, since the NJ Gaming Commission has been abolished and replaced by a Gaming Enforcement division of the NJ State Police, the green light is on for MGM's return to AC. Please tell me it's true.

Since Boyd Gaming took over complete control of the Borgata, it has been a slow downward spiral. This past week it hit an all time low. Dealers in the 8-deck S17 pit were instructed to cut THREE DECKS penetration. Former Boyd changes were a reduction in the number of 6-deck games and a switch from S17 to H17 for many of its games. Hopefully, it will be nice when Revel opens, but that is not until next May 15th from what I've recently heard.

 

[21forme]

Wow, a thread fro the past. If the casino managers at any new places come from the same gene pool as the rest of them, just expect more crap.

 

[aslan]

Wow, a thread fro the past. If the casino managers at any new places come from the same gene pool as the rest of them, just expect more crap.

Wouldn't it be cool if they brought in Chinese management? Or would it? Stanley Ho and his family have a monopoly on gambling in China and also ties to the Chinese mafia; so who do you think from China is building the Revel in AC?

Who knows? They may bring back-rooming to new levels, not to speak of other things.

 

[Gamblor]

I realize all that, but most of us don't have the luxury of heading down to AC at 11 AM on Tuesday. Rush hour is rush hour for a reason. A train would make it a nice trip.

Yep, most people don't have the choice some of us do. Try driving back to NYC up the GSP and across the GWB on a Sunday evening in summer. 6 hours minimum.

 

[FLASH1296]

Not 3 … 4


No, not THREE (3) new casinos slated for A. C.

There are actually FOUR (4)

The Florida Seminoles (of Hard Rock infamy) applied for a permit.

 

[BJinNJ]

Revel Progressing...

A carpenter friend of mine finally got back to work at the Revel site.
They extended the boardwalk quite a way to accommodate the new properties.
It was a good long walk from Hilton/Trop to Showboat/Taj, as it was.

BJ in AC needs help. The rules in PA are better, but the pen is not.

BJinNJ

 

[Jacob]

Revel

A carpenter friend of mine finally got back to work at the Revel site.
They extended the boardwalk quite a way to accommodate the new properties.
It was a good long walk from Hilton/Trop to Showboat/Taj, as it was.

BJ in AC needs help. The rules in PA are better, but the pen is not.

BJinNJ

Flysrb reported that Revel Casino opened a part of its casino for visitors. In its lounge visitors may register with Revel through its computers.

Pics're linked from Flysrb's site

 

[aslan]

A carpenter friend of mine finally got back to work at the Revel site.
They extended the boardwalk quite a way to accommodate the new properties.
It was a good long walk from Hilton/Trop to Showboat/Taj, as it was.

BJ in AC needs help. The rules in PA are better, but the pen is not.

BJinNJ

Then you have not been to the Borgata lately where they ordered all the dealers in the 8-deck S17 pit to cut three decks pen. Has any other casino gone this far?

 

[ChefJJ]

Jacob,

Checking out Revel is pretty interesting...they've got it set up as a promotional area getting the word out and showing off their resort product. Not sure about the casino stuff quite yet though.

 

[Gamblor]

Then you have not been to the Borgata lately where they ordered all the dealers in the 8-deck S17 pit to cut three decks pen. Has any other casino gone this far?

Aslan, you seem to be particularly adept at finding the bad pen games in AC :grin: I tend to agree with BjinNj.