About those "Asian" casino rooms

Liquid Chips

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#1
I happened upon an "Asian" casino room at the Tropicana in Atlantic City. I've always thought they were called Asian because they had Asian type gambling games but they had regular casino games and filled with....Asians! I stopped and looked and saw about two or three Americans in there. The Asians were sooo sereeeous! On the regular casino floor were whooping and noisy players but the Asian room was quiet (relatively) with those standing behind the players also bending over the tables seriously observing the action. I don't know...it just appears odd to have a casino room just for one group of people (except for handicapped people.) I was afraid to go into the Asian casino room where I could get ninja-ed or kung-fu'd to death! :eek::grin:
 

aslan

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#2
Liquid Chips said:
I happened upon an "Asian" casino room at the Tropicana in Atlantic City. I've always thought they were called Asian because they had Asian type gambling games but they had regular casino games and filled with....Asians! I stopped and looked and saw about two or three Americans in there. The Asians were sooo sereeeous! On the regular casino floor were whooping and noisy players but the Asian room was quiet (relatively) with those standing behind the players also bending over the tables seriously observing the action. I don't know...it just appears odd to have a casino room just for one group of people (except for handicapped people.) I was afraid to go into the Asian casino room where I could get ninja-ed or kung-fu'd to death! :eek::grin:
You must be courageous, Grasshopper.
 
#5
Quiet Asians...

Liquid Chips said:
I happened upon an "Asian" casino room at the Tropicana in Atlantic City. I've always thought they were called Asian because they had Asian type gambling games but they had regular casino games and filled with....Asians! I stopped and looked and saw about two or three Americans in there. The Asians were sooo sereeeous! On the regular casino floor were whooping and noisy players but the Asian room was quiet (relatively) with those standing behind the players also bending over the tables seriously observing the action. I don't know...it just appears odd to have a casino room just for one group of people (except for handicapped people.) I was afraid to go into the Asian casino room where I could get ninja-ed or kung-fu'd to death! :eek::grin:
Trust me, I'm an American living in Asia (for over 25 years)... being quiet in a casino is just one of the many "odd" things Asians sometimes do..

As far as scoping out the room.. just walk in and shout.. HEY I JUST SAW JACKIE CHAN in the parking lot.. The room will empty and you can have a look with no fear of being Fu'd to death :laugh:
 

Liquid Chips

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#6
Sucker said:
It occurs to me that you may be suffering from sinophobia (fear of Asians).
If you are not joking, no, I'm not actually afraid of Asians. I didn't go into the room because it looked to be a very serious environment versus my casual strolling around just looking at what was in the casino. The comment about being ninja'd and kung fu'd (as in karate) was just a joke.

Dragonstar said:
Trust me, I'm an American living in Asia (for over 25 years)... being quiet in a casino is just one of the many "odd" things Asians sometimes do..

As far as scoping out the room.. just walk in and shout.. HEY I JUST SAW JACKIE CHAN in the parking lot.. The room will empty and you can have a look with no fear of being Fu'd to death :laugh:
I realize that Asians culturally have a different approach and mindset toward gambling and being around people (the rest of us :) ) who are loud, talk a lot, drink and generally just having fun just doesn't sit well with their approach to the games. So I understand why there are "Asian" casino rooms which is fine, really. It's just it was my first time in real life coming across such a different scene in contrast to the one behind me.

(I just realized "fu'd" looked like another word than the one I intended. So, for the record, I meant "fu" as in "kung fu" as in karate. I just had to clarify. :))
 
#8
Sucker said:
Yes; I was also being tongue-in-cheek. Guess I should have used the ;) simile.
That would be more like a metaphor.

The Asian rooms I've seen have had all baccarat, which is now a de facto Asian game, and Pai Gow cards and dominoes. Oh and Trump Plaza experimented with moving their Spanish 21 tables in there. :flame:

Most other countries are more comfortable with racism and racial assertiveness than us weak, cringing Americans (they wonder why Western sperm counts are dropping, well, it's low testosterone due to Western men being told they're not allowed to be men anymore) and I've seen tables of Asian immigrants who were clearly unhappy about having to play with a white guy, and also get up and leave because a black guy sat down. Lose enough money and you can make the rules in a casino.
 

aslan

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#11
I sat at an all Asian blackjack table last week. The only thing peculiar was that onlooking Asians repeatedly lambasted one Asian player who made exactly the correct basic strategy move (for example, doubling down on A/7 against a dealer 5). They blamed him when he won but the table lost because third base then took the dealer's bust card. If he had stayed instead of doubling down, the whole table would have won. OTOH, when I made the same play later in the game, they didn't say a word of criticism--maybe because I was not Asian? Anyway, I had a ball playing with them, including when the dealer paid the entire table thinking he had busted with a soft 22, One Asian player to my right whispered in my ear, "Don't say anything." I had $101 out at the time, the one white chip being a dealer tip ala Moo.
 

blackchipjim

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#14
Ah So?

I have seen a section of casinos that seem to have bussed in half of asia. I love dragon lady dealers quick, no nonsense and accurate as heck. Playing a table full of asian players may be intimidating to some but they have never messed with me nor do I think they every will. They tend to jibber and jabber among themselves and sometimes piss the dealer off because in certain games not bj only english is suppose to be spoken. They are the most superstisous of all players and don't like being blamed for diddley. I have seen them argue with a bad player until they left. There are levels of society inside every asian nation and some refuse to socialize with one another.
 

aslan

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#15
I met one Asian blackjack player recently who owns a local restaurant. My wife and I visited his restaurant later and he was grinning from ear to ear that I would come there. The food was better than excellent, and so was the free cocktail and dessert. He was a very gracious host indeed. I'm sure I'll see him again and again at the tables. He's not a card counter, but don't be too sure about the younger Asian set--they are well read, well educated, and know the AP scene as well as anyone. I suspect that a mass reversal of roles is upon us. Do you remember when "Made in Japan" meant junk? Well I don't expect all of you to, but if you're over 55, you probably do.
 

BJgenius007

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#16
Taj Mahal has the best Asian noodle soup.

tensplitter said:
The whole Taj Mahal is full of Asians. Heck, it's an imitation of a famous landmark in India.
You can't pay to eat there. You have to have a card then ask the pit boss for comp.
 

ihate17

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#17
Not peculiar at all

I have lived in Asia for 10 years in the past and now play often in California at casinos that are dominated by Asian players. They are often very critical of eachother, and moreso when they both speak the same language. One Chinese guy telling another how to play is common while the same Chinese guy might just give a Korean player a dirty look.
Now if you sit at a table with several Asian players who speak the same language and your proper play costs the table, they will eventually ridicule you but never in English. Learn some curse words in Korean, Mandarin and Vietnamese and you will find your ears perking up from time to time.

Overall, they are not very different than Anglo, Hispanic, African American or any other kind of ploppy you might have out there. A little quieter amongst others but they, like all ploppies have perfect hindsight when things go wrong but never noticed when they go right.
Just played recently on a table with two young Chinese exchange students of some sort. One knew how to play and his buddy was the perfect casino customer. When the guy who knew how to play did things like split his 3,3 vs 7 and doubled his A,7 vs 4 and both backfired his friend got so mad and so loud that the casino had to tell him to calm down. His friend had made similar proper plays just a few minutes before but because the loud guy won on those hands, he had nothing to say. The result was that his friend began playing as poorly as he did.
Since I did not need the noise or an extra player on the table, I was waiting for one of those kinds of hands just to see if I could get the loud guy off the table. Eventually I got 9,9 vs8 and split. The result was great (for me), I win both but the loud guy loses and hindsights it that if I had stayed he would have won. Says something to his buddy in Mandarin after making a loud grunt and leaves. Being the character that I am, I ask his buddy if his friend was complimenting my blackjack skills----I get a laugh. Point is that the differences between ploppies of different ethnic groups are not really big differences.


aslan said:
I sat at an all Asian blackjack table last week. The only thing peculiar was that onlooking Asians repeatedly lambasted one Asian player who made exactly the correct basic strategy move (for example, doubling down on A/7 against a dealer 5). They blamed him when he won but the table lost because third base then took the dealer's bust card. If he had stayed instead of doubling down, the whole table would have won. OTOH, when I made the same play later in the game, they didn't say a word of criticism--maybe because I was not Asian? Anyway, I had a ball playing with them, including when the dealer paid the entire table thinking he had busted with a soft 22, One Asian player to my right whispered in my ear, "Don't say anything." I had $101 out at the time, the one white chip being a dealer tip ala Moo.
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
#18
ihate17 said:
I have lived in Asia for 10 years in the past and now play often in California at casinos that are dominated by Asian players. They are often very critical of eachother, and moreso when they both speak the same language. One Chinese guy telling another how to play is common while the same Chinese guy might just give a Korean player a dirty look.
Now if you sit at a table with several Asian players who speak the same language and your proper play costs the table, they will eventually ridicule you but never in English. Learn some curse words in Korean, Mandarin and Vietnamese and you will find your ears perking up from time to time.

Overall, they are not very different than Anglo, Hispanic, African American or any other kind of ploppy you might have out there. A little quieter amongst others but they, like all ploppies have perfect hindsight when things go wrong but never noticed when they go right.
Just played recently on a table with two young Chinese exchange students of some sort. One knew how to play and his buddy was the perfect casino customer. When the guy who knew how to play did things like split his 3,3 vs 7 and doubled his A,7 vs 4 and both backfired his friend got so mad and so loud that the casino had to tell him to calm down. His friend had made similar proper plays just a few minutes before but because the loud guy won on those hands, he had nothing to say. The result was that his friend began playing as poorly as he did.
Since I did not need the noise or an extra player on the table, I was waiting for one of those kinds of hands just to see if I could get the loud guy off the table. Eventually I got 9,9 vs8 and split. The result was great (for me), I win both but the loud guy loses and hindsights it that if I had stayed he would have won. Says something to his buddy in Mandarin after making a loud grunt and leaves. Being the character that I am, I ask his buddy if his friend was complimenting my blackjack skills----I get a laugh. Point is that the differences between ploppies of different ethnic groups are not really big differences.
When the other Asians were lambasting the Asian player who was doing the right thing, I repeatedly told the critics that he did exactly what the book said and I encouraged the Asian player to continue making the proper plays. I told the critic that if anyone could see the future, they would not be sitting here playing $25 blackjack. On my next split, trip sevens and two double downs against a dealer three, only one of my splits made a decent hand, and I held my breath as the dealer took a long time to bust. Had I lost, I am sure the critics would have had a field day talking about the know-it-all white guy who took the dealer's bust card. :laugh: Sometimes, it's beautiful. :)
 

FLASH1296

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#19
Read this.

At the MGM Grand in Las Vegas the High Limit Room is as big as some casinos are.

It is called “The Mansions

What is really strange is that there are ONLY baccarat tables. Nothing Else.
 
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