After all the ups and downs, I'm pretty close to EV.

[21forme]

Just ran some numbers for my play in 2007 and 2008. Had 500 hours of table time and my take is ~10% above EV. This counting stuff really works :grin:

edited to add P.S. That should be "close" in the title

 

[bj bob]

Just ran some numbers for my play in 2007 and 2008. Had 500 hours of table time and my take is ~10% above EV. This counting stuff really works :grin:

edited to add P.S. That should be "close" in the title

For the modest sum of $20 Sonny will be glad to add an "L", Pat. :grin:

 

[21forme]

But that would be a -EV play

I'm surprised the Edit function doesn't permit editing of the title. Guess the mods have to make money somehow...

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Just ran some numbers for my play in 2007 and 2008. Had 500 hours of table time and my take is ~10% above EV. This counting stuff really works :grin:

edited to add P.S. That should be "close" in the title

Sounds good. I'm guessing you have about 2-3 N0's in in that time frame which will give you around a 90% chance of being ahead. Have you ever tried to estimate how much profit you make in dealer errors and what that does to your stats?

 

[21forme]

Sounds good. I'm guessing you have about 2-3 N0's in in that time frame which will give you around a 90% chance of being ahead. Have you ever tried to estimate how much profit you make in dealer errors and what that does to your stats?

Dealer errors in my usual haunts are fairly uncommon. I've had the benefit of more dealer errors in one day up your way than I've had here in a year.

As a matter of fact, those 2:1 payoffs at Sp21, while we were playing together recently, were the first dealer errors I've seen around here in at least 3 months. After those, I was hoping to try an ES, but the opportunity never arose.

 

[Kasi]

Just ran some numbers for my play in 2007 and 2008. Had 500 hours of table time and my take is ~10% above EV. This counting stuff really works :grin:

No big deal - but I'm sure you can guess I only have about a million questions about what went into that summary lol.

Mostly, I'm curious about any methodology, what's recorded and when, how you may avg total results, etc lol. Like I think you play SP21 and BJ?

No big deal - glad you're ahead lol.

You know me, once I start asking, you'll probably wish I never had started lol.
And I don't want that :grin:

 

[21forme]

No problem, Kasi.
I use Norm's CVJournal (part of CVBJ) to record the data. I've been recording pretty much the default fields of the program. I don't record the total amt bet or # of decks. When I sit down at a table, I note the approx time. I typically buy in for the same amount each time. Then, when I get up and cash out, I record what I won/lost, the time played, and the casino game. For 2009, I added some additional fields to CVJ and will also track game (BJ v. Sp21), so I can break out BJ v Sp21 in the future, shift played. When I get home, I enter the data into the computer.

I have a friend who is more anal about it and uses a stop watch to time his sessions (maybe because because he's a lawyer and is used to billing by the minute )

I thought about using Excel, but I am an extreme novice with that program, so decided to stick with CVJ. If I ever want to analyze the data in more detail, it's easy to export CVJ into Excel.

 

[SuperTrump]

I use StatKing by Conjelco to record my sessions. Although, originally designed for poker play recording, it works a treat with BJ also.

Computes your win-rate, confidence and standard deviation. Determines break-even points, chances of going broke. Includes graphing, advice, bankroll requirements, streak analysis etc.

Top notch IMHO!

 

[Kasi]

No problem, Kasi....

Thanks 21.

Here's a sampling of the stupid cr*p I wonder about :grin:

Do you segregate these 2 year results at least maybe by game and/or time played?

How often do you attempt to do whatever you did for these 2 years?

How often, more or less do you bet the same way in the same game, or not, kind of thing? Or, when you do, how do you deal with it?

Yeah, those dam* lawyers - all you need to know is he knew exactly how long he worked so he's know exactly to bill for what he didnj't work lmao.

No big deal lol - happy you're ahead and you're always thinking about recording more cr*p to get us all even more confused lol.

Did I ever send you my SP21 crap? Even if you are "sheet-challenged" lol I could try to do what i can to maybe help you, if you think it would help, get down to just plugging in a few numbers in a few fields so maybe you could do it more often to see where you stand as often as you can.

Most likely, it would be a challenge for both of us since I think I know you bet alot of different ways with different $spreads etc in BJ and SP21.

Don't know what CVBJ exporting to Excel does but it just seems to me maybe you might find CVCX more useful to put results in. But I don't really know of course since I don't have it sincve you DO this stuff and I don't :grin:

 

[21forme]

Thanks 21.

Here's a sampling of the stupid cr*p I wonder about :grin:

Do you segregate these 2 year results at least maybe by game and/or time played?

Time played is listed with every entry. Prior to 2009, I did not have a field for Game, so I'll be able to break it out in the future.

How often do you attempt to do whatever you did for these 2 years?

First time. I figured 500 hours of play would give me an idea of "long term." Before this, I just watched the money pile grow in the safe deposit box

How often, more or less do you bet the same way in the same game, or not, kind of thing? Or, when you do, how do you deal with it?

I have a bigger spread in Sp21, however that is somewhat counterbalanced by sometimes playing a larger unit at BJ, depending on the game and where I am.

Did I ever send you my SP21 crap? Even if you are "sheet-challenged" lol I could try to do what i can to maybe help you, if you think it would help, get down to just plugging in a few numbers in a few fields so maybe you could do it more often to see where you stand as often as you can.

No. If you can PM it, feel free. If there's a file involved, email it to me at my screen name at gmail dot com.

Don't know what CVBJ exporting to Excel does but it just seems to me maybe you might find CVCX more useful to put results in. But I don't really know of course since I don't have it sincve you DO this stuff and I don't :grin:

CVBJ (or CVJ) doesn't run sims. Expoting to Excel just gives more reporting options with the data.

 

[Kasi]

Time played is listed with every entry. Prior to 2009, I did not have a field for Game, so I'll be able to break it out in the future.


First time. I figured 500 hours of play would give me an idea of "long term." Before this, I just watched the money pile grow in the safe deposit box


I have a bigger spread in Sp21, however that is somewhat counterbalanced by sometimes playing a larger unit at BJ, depending on the game and where I am.



No. If you can PM it, feel free. If there's a file involved, email it to me at my screen name at gmail dot com.


CVBJ (or CVJ) doesn't run sims. Expoting to Excel just gives more reporting options with the data.

Well, good for you for thinking about always ways to refine lol.

You're a better man than I, Gunga Din.

I'll get in touch tomorrow - thinking it may be time for a "challenged sheet" guy to blow some of that safety deposit box money on CVCX. Let it do the work for you session by session, game by game, etc grin:

My imaginary goal would be to have you come home and do your thing on that day's play, one day/session/shoe at a time

Little harm trying I guess - I mean more for me than you lol.