Best Counting System

Sonny

Sonny

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KOLAN said:
bett all many :laugh:
just basik strategy
not to big count:whip:
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But how do you combine those 3 different counts to get a true count? Or do you keep them separate? How much do you bet at different counts? When do you bet 2 units? When do you bet 12 units? When do you stand with 12 vs. 2? How do you use those 3 counts together to make your decisions?

-Sonny-
 
KOLAN

KOLAN

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Sonny said:
But how do you combine those 3 different counts to get a true count? Or do you keep them separate? How much do you bet at different counts? When do you bet 2 units? When do you bet 12 units? When do you stand with 12 vs. 2? How do you use those 3 counts together to make your decisions?

-Sonny-
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true count just X card devite by full deck ,half deck
+1 1 unit, +2 2 unit , +3 4 unit
i stand when rc is 5-0-15 or 0-0-8
2 deck reamaining
1 count work for betting
2 count work for playing
3 to make decision.
:joker:
 
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ricopuno

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Sonny , I have a lot of respect for you . I would like to know which counting system you use that worked for you?

Sincerely,

Paul
 
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ace157

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jack said:
If there happened to be a such thing as the best system,(without multi-parameters) and to answer your question in a realistic manner, as you requested, it would probably look something like this. Which by the way is an actual sytem.

2334320-1-4(4)
.994
.68
.89

With this sysyem its possible to sidecount A vs X(A-4/X+1) to convert into two other sytems for insurance and betting purposes.

42334320-1-5(Ic.93)
2334320-1-4(Pe.68)
2334320-1-3-4(Bc.997)

You would add or subtract the secondary count, depending on the situation.

For example, if your secondary count is negative, you would ADD this to your main count to form the Insurance count, while subtract for betting.

If your secondary count was positive, you would now be Adding this to your Main count for betting purposes, while subtracting for Insurance.

Any questions?
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what is the name of this system, I'm curious now? though it is quite powerful, looks kind of messy to me, countn' 9s, lvl 4 system, and a side count on top of it? ... i guess he did ask for the best though....
 
jack.jackson

jack.jackson

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ace157 said:
what is the name of this system, I'm curious now? though it is quite powerful, looks kind of messy to me, countn' 9s, lvl 4 system, and a side count on top of it? ... i guess he did ask for the best though....
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Theres no name for it, I just thought it up. Ive actually used it, and it was quite challenging, but fun!

2334320-1-4 is the main count:

Keep a secondary count of (start this @50) A-4/X+1


With the secondary count, you can form 3 different counts at any given time!

1.0/2334320-1-4/0(BC.997)
2.2334320-1-3-4(PE.68)
3.42334320-1-5/0(IC.93)


Say your count was, +13/+12(62) and it was time to make your bet, you would add these two counts together to form count #1 which would give you +25 for betting. In addition, you could also form count #1, for hands of 7-10, A6-A9, and when splitting, since Count 1, has the best efficiency for these hands. Likewise you would subtract +13/+12=+1 to form Count #3, when taking insurance, 11, and doubling A2-A5 since count#3 has the greatest efficiency for these hands. In effect enhancing your playing efficiency beyond the .68 mark!

I never could figure out if count #2 or 3 had the greatest efficiency when holding stiffs?

Note: I use to count A+4/X-1 so everything was backwards in the above example.
 
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jack.jackson

jack.jackson

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ace157 said:
wow that made my head hurt a lil but i think i got it lol
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Ball Buster?Yes! And unless you were from Vulcan, it would be impossible to use in actual Casino play. That being said, I think I'm gonna go have me, some Taco's for breakfast.
 
jack.jackson

jack.jackson

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New count

Heres something similiar that I've just started working on, thats a little easier and feasible.


Main count:
1)2223210-1-2-3
(BC.994)

Secondary:
A+4/X-1

2)12223210-1-3
PE.676
IC.90

You will use count #1 for Betting and hands of 7-10, A6-A9, 77-XX,

You would add the secondary count to your main count, for all other hands and insurance purposes. This would probably bring your PE, to around .70

.994
.70
.90

I plan on starting the index generation(CVdata) for these hands, in the next couple days.

Note:Count 1, is pretty easy to use because of the cancellations
 
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ace157

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jack said:
Heres something similiar that I've just started working on, thats a little easier and feasible.


Main count:
1)2223210-1-2-3
(BC.994)

Secondary:
A+4/X-1

2)12223210-1-3
PE.676
IC.90

You will use count #1 for Betting and hands of 7-10, A6-A9, 77-XX,

You would add the secondary count to your main count, for all other hands and insurance purposes. This would probably bring your PE, to around .70

.994
.70
.90

I plan on starting the index generation(CVdata) for these hands, in the next couple days.

Note:Count 1, is pretty easy to use because of the cancellations
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lemme know how that works out for ya... though it still seems (to me) like more trouble than its worth keeping two separate counts, especially with balanced tags meaning you would also have to tally a running count.... too much for this cowboy
 
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