Dumbest thing I've heard said at the table
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A friend of mine was going to Vegas for the first time, so I prepared a basic strategy chart for him to use. He later told me that a pit boss, while allowing him to use the chart at the table, had said, "You know, those things are wrong half of the time."
When you think about it, this would mean that BS is right half of the time, which means the game would be essentially even.
But the dumbest thing I ever heard was said by yours truly on my first trip to Vegas in the early 70's. I had read John Scarne's book on gambling and was using his basic strategy, which is hopelessly wrong. Despite this, I was very lucky and ended up about $800 ahead, betting $2-$10 a hand. At one point after I had split 10's and won both hands, I replied to someone who had questioned my judgment (or my sanity -- I can't recall), "You should always split 10's against a 6!"
When you think about it, this would mean that BS is right half of the time, which means the game would be essentially even.
But the dumbest thing I ever heard was said by yours truly on my first trip to Vegas in the early 70's. I had read John Scarne's book on gambling and was using his basic strategy, which is hopelessly wrong. Despite this, I was very lucky and ended up about $800 ahead, betting $2-$10 a hand. At one point after I had split 10's and won both hands, I replied to someone who had questioned my judgment (or my sanity -- I can't recall), "You should always split 10's against a 6!"
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Some of my favorite retorts:
"That's fine, I only use it half the time."
"Yeah, but the other half of the time I hold it upside-down."
"Hell, for two bucks at least I'm getting closer."
"Yeah, well I can come to the casino and be right half the time or I can stay at home with my wife and be wrong ALL the time..." :laugh:
-Sonny-
"That's fine, I only use it half the time."
"Yeah, but the other half of the time I hold it upside-down."
"Hell, for two bucks at least I'm getting closer."
"Yeah, well I can come to the casino and be right half the time or I can stay at home with my wife and be wrong ALL the time..." :laugh:
-Sonny-
Guy in AC
Not too long ago, I had an aging metal dude come up to the table and start talking loudly (with the PC right there) about how he could count cards. He was pretty drunk and hard to understand, but he seemed pretty adamant that he was best at a 'three card shoe'.
Also, I always thought the line, 'if you had a 20-inch dick, would you cut it in half?' was pretty dumb. 'Course you would! You'd still have a 10-inch dick, plus a great conversation piece for the coffee table to boot!
Not too long ago, I had an aging metal dude come up to the table and start talking loudly (with the PC right there) about how he could count cards. He was pretty drunk and hard to understand, but he seemed pretty adamant that he was best at a 'three card shoe'.
Also, I always thought the line, 'if you had a 20-inch dick, would you cut it in half?' was pretty dumb. 'Course you would! You'd still have a 10-inch dick, plus a great conversation piece for the coffee table to boot!
I'm playing today. Count is good, so I stand on a 15 vs dealer 10. Guy sitting to my left is all pissed off. He says "Geeze, you just screwed up my hand." I ask if he wants to switch seats, then my play won't matter to him. He says "You throw off the rest of the shoe for everyone. You should never stand on that hand unless you're counting cards and know what you're doing." Then he starrts armchair quarterbacking the next 2 hands telling everyone how the cards would have played if I didn't stand...
I had another one at the same casino as last time. The ploppie to my right and I both had an A-4 with the dealer having a 6 up.
He didn't hit his A-4, I doubled mine and got a 6 for 21. He started to grumble when I doubled. The dealer turned up a 4 and hit a 10 for 20. The guy almost exploded. Apparently he never takes a hit if the dealer has a bust card up, because it's a team game and it's us against the casino. The pit boss eventually had to come over and quiet him down. The guy said, "Who are you, the pit boy?" Everyone got a laugh out of that.
I didn't know how to respond to the guy so just kept my mouth shut.
He didn't hit his A-4, I doubled mine and got a 6 for 21. He started to grumble when I doubled. The dealer turned up a 4 and hit a 10 for 20. The guy almost exploded. Apparently he never takes a hit if the dealer has a bust card up, because it's a team game and it's us against the casino. The pit boss eventually had to come over and quiet him down. The guy said, "Who are you, the pit boy?" Everyone got a laugh out of that.
I didn't know how to respond to the guy so just kept my mouth shut.
just an FYI for everybody on the whole
"always splits 8's and A's" argument
using the basic stratergy on this very website..for my casino
Dealer Stands on Soft 17
Double 9,10,11 Only
Double After Split Allowed
No Surrender
No peek (European style)
it says to hit a pair of aces against an ace
and also not to split 8's against 10's or aces.
when i questioned this months and months ago. I concluded it is because the "no peek factor" obviously means the dealer could still have blackjack in any of these three scenarios are that you will lose less by not splitting. where as with "dealer peeks" we allready know there is no chance of BJ and thus the descion changes..
so when I hear the line always splits 8's and A's" in my casino.. it is in fact mathematically incorrect as they as playing under the same conditions as me.
the worst part is call me stupid.. but as much as i can remember.. the BS engine BEFORE the one currently used on this website did not ask if it was peek or no peek.. so i had been playing the wrong BS for years.. god knows how much it cost me..
it had also been doubling down 11's vs 10, and this is also showing as a "no, no " under "no peek play"
the thing i dont understand is that if somebody splits aces against an ace and gets two hands of 21 and the dealers gets BJ. they only lose one bet.. same as the double..... so i again ask........ taking that into consideration..... is the BS correct on this??
i have my doubts... any bodys thoughts?
"always splits 8's and A's" argument
using the basic stratergy on this very website..for my casino
Dealer Stands on Soft 17
Double 9,10,11 Only
Double After Split Allowed
No Surrender
No peek (European style)
it says to hit a pair of aces against an ace
and also not to split 8's against 10's or aces.
when i questioned this months and months ago. I concluded it is because the "no peek factor" obviously means the dealer could still have blackjack in any of these three scenarios are that you will lose less by not splitting. where as with "dealer peeks" we allready know there is no chance of BJ and thus the descion changes..
so when I hear the line always splits 8's and A's" in my casino.. it is in fact mathematically incorrect as they as playing under the same conditions as me.
the worst part is call me stupid.. but as much as i can remember.. the BS engine BEFORE the one currently used on this website did not ask if it was peek or no peek.. so i had been playing the wrong BS for years.. god knows how much it cost me..
it had also been doubling down 11's vs 10, and this is also showing as a "no, no " under "no peek play"
the thing i dont understand is that if somebody splits aces against an ace and gets two hands of 21 and the dealers gets BJ. they only lose one bet.. same as the double..... so i again ask........ taking that into consideration..... is the BS correct on this??
i have my doubts... any bodys thoughts?
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Matteo, just worth checking, while the dealear doesn't have a hole card in your game, if the does pull a blackjack, does she take the money from your doubles/splits? Or does that get left on the table?
If you only lose your original bet, treat it the same as american-hole-card-stylee.
I'm only asking because no-hole-card, original-bets-only is sometimes referred to as "Australian".
If you only lose your original bet, treat it the same as american-hole-card-stylee.
I'm only asking because no-hole-card, original-bets-only is sometimes referred to as "Australian".
A 2 is the dealer's 2
I made this statement, a 2 is the dealer's 2 recently (on purpose to see what kind of reaction I got from a known voodoo player at my table) and was surprised when the other 3 players at the table all responded, as if rehearshed, the 2 is the dealers ace. Idiot that I am, I went and put out an insurance bet which made the dealer laugh as he pushed it back to me.
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I made this statement, a 2 is the dealer's 2 recently (on purpose to see what kind of reaction I got from a known voodoo player at my table) and was surprised when the other 3 players at the table all responded, as if rehearshed, the 2 is the dealers ace. Idiot that I am, I went and put out an insurance bet which made the dealer laugh as he pushed it back to me.
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