What else could you do but stand? I don't know the odds on a dealer making a hand on a soft 12, but I'd think it is still a stand hand. I'm sure it is when the count is positive.assume_R said:Last week I had a hard 15 and dealer had an ace up. She accidentally flashed a second ace (soft 12). Needless to say, I didn't take insurance :laugh:. But what should my play have been?
HIT to 17. zgassume_R said:Last week I had a hard 15 and dealer had an ace up. She accidentally flashed a second ace (soft 12). Needless to say, I didn't take insurance :laugh:. But what should my play have been?
I'll need to look it up in BEYOND COUNTING! zgBrock Windsor said:H17 it is a stand. S17 it is a hit.
-BW
You never learned the HC strategy. zgaslan said:What else could you do but stand? I don't know the odds on a dealer making a hand on a soft 12, but I'd think it is still a stand hand. I'm sure it is when the count is positive.
assume_R said:More curious is how you all got your figures. Modern Blackjack? That doesn't seem to differentiate between dealer soft and hard hands.
I see qfit said, "Dealer A6 through A9 are the same as 17-20." so I suppose that he also meant a dealer's soft 12 would be the same strategy as a dealer's hard 12?Jack_Black said:how so? you just had to keep reading to find the right answer. I had no idea what kind of rules you were referring to.
nopeassume_R said:I see qfit said, "Dealer A6 through A9 are the same as 17-20." so I suppose that he also meant a dealer's soft 12 would be the same strategy as a dealer's hard 12?
I have read the tables, but never memorized them. I think Brock got it right, hit for S17 and stand for H17. But I'm thinking you would stand in both cases if the count were =>+4. (Two tens will bust the dealer and one ten will bust you.)zengrifter said:You never learned the HC strategy. zg
Even just +1.. but counting while HC'ng doesn't add enough to make it worthwhile. zgaslan said:I have read the tables, but never memorized them. I think Brock got it right, hit for S17 and stand for H17. But I'm thinking you would stand in both cases if the count were =>+4.
Makes sense to me.zengrifter said:Even just +1.. but counting while HC'ng doesn't add enough to make it worthwhile. zg
Counting at HC'ing is like counting at tourney play.aslan said:Makes sense to me.
Will do! I have been keeping track of all kinds of dealer errors where I play (and the dealers who make the errors). Here are some of them:moo321 said:Hit, because the gain is slight from standing, and you shouldn't deviate from basic with the ace up. Also, keep playing with that dealer![]()
This happens to be EXCELLENT advice. It's not only not worth the effort, it has a huge potential to be counter-productive. While you're concentrating your efforts on trying to count the cards on the table, you just MIGHT miss something WAY more important. ONE exposed card at the right time can oftentimes result in more EV than a whole DAYS worth of counting.zengrifter said:Counting at HC'ing is like counting at tourney play.
I don't think any of the pros do it. Its not worth the effort. zg