I-18 and splitting 10's

zengrifter

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BJgenius007 said:
I am using Omega II, the tags are {0,1,1,2,2,2,1,0,-1,-2}. The only difference is that ace is neutral 0. (To balance the count, 3's tag is 1 instead of 2 in your system.) It is because...
You really should swap your Ace and 9 values for good (ZEN) but keep your AO2 indices. zg
 
BJgenius007 said:
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For betting purpose, Ace should be treated like ten.
For playing purpose, Ace should be treated like a small card....
Why? For which plays does ace make benefit as a small card, and for which does it act like a high card?

The problem is, for the decisions you make when you have black chips on the table, it acts more like a high card than a low card. I'm not that worried about the ace when I hit 12 vs. 4 or something.

The concept of the playing values of cards when you really have to make a decision I think has been overlooked.
 
zengrifter said:
For anyone considering a move to level-two, I consider Mentor to be the best
all-around system, with the added increased granularity of the unique 2DTC.

AutoMonk's findings also concur with Brett Harris, who found that ZEN would
out perform RPC even at ENHC shoes, which surprised him. zg
I'd think that Zen would be better for ENHC than for American style. The ENHC rule makes an ace more powerful for the dealer but not for the player. Conversely the LS rule makes the ace less powerful for the dealer, because we can take the edge off the dealer's ace by surrendering against it. All of the beneficial rules for the player make the ace more powerful for the player relative to the dealer.
 

blackjack avenger

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A Sim Shall Lead Them

or 4

6d s17 das
bs with spl to 4 hands
with only indices being 10,10 vs 5,6 @ TC7
wonging at tc2
hi lo
kelly bet ramp
ror 13.53
10g bank
sim 200 million hands per line

Split###SCORE ###Variance###TC7 Bet
0 ##### 25.96 ### 2596 #### 218.14
2 ##### 28.84 ### 2884 #### 247.95
3 ##### 30.63 ### 3063 #### 254.26
4 ##### 30.92 ### 3092 #### 254.89

An editing ?:
I thought the # sign allowed spaces in columns?

good cards:joker::whip:
 
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jack.jackson

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BJgenius007 said:
I am using Omega II, the tags are {0,1,1,2,2,2,1,0,-1,-2}. The only difference is that ace is neutral 0. (To balance the count, 3's tag is 1 instead of 2 in your system.) It is because...

For betting purpose, Ace should be treated like ten.
For playing purpose, Ace should be treated like a small card.
If you can keep the ace side count, you can enjoy the best of two worlds.

Add ace side count when you bet. (Four more aces in remaining shoe increases true count by 1. You bet accordingly.)
Adjust playing decisions based on ace side count. (Shifting indexes when you have hard 16. Ace rich in remaining deck helps doubling on 9, 10, soft 18, soft 19, soft 20. Ace poor in remaining deck helps doubling on 11, other soft hands, etc. IMO the last one is the most helpful. When you know there are very few aces left and many tens left. doubling on bad soft hand like soft 13, soft 14 against dealer OK up-card make you look like a dumb ploppy not knowing your basic strategy. After a while, you will notice ace poor and ten rich make dealer so easy to bust.)
Ya, its a pretty good weapon when splitting tens as well. Just curious, how you handle 11vA and whether or not you knew its a pretty powerful weapon when spltting 88vX and 99v7 and 99vA and 12v6? Sometimes the ace uses a different value depending on the hand. I use 1.5 for insurance with ao2.
 

Canceler

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blackjack avenger said:
An editing ?:
I thought the # sign allowed spaces in columns?
When making your reply, select (highlight) your table, then click the # button to wrap it in code tags. Be sure to use the Preview Post feature, and make any necessary adjustments if it doesn’t look the way you want it to.


Code:
Split     SCORE      Variance    TC7 Bet
  0       25.96       2596       218.14
  2       28.84       2884       247.95
  3       30.63       3063       254.26
  4       30.92       3092       254.89
 
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