Korea games

[johndoe]

Anyone have information on current conditions in Korea (Seoul)? Game info, decks, hopeful lack of CSM, the usual, and most importantly how heat is handled with foreigners...

 

[johndoe]

For reference: I took a look, and the 50% penetration made it a nonstarter. However, their 3CP is quite vulnerable.

 

[Talmadge]

Were the games that you looked at 6 and 8 Deck, S17, DOA, DAS, RSA, LS ?

 

[johndoe]

I didn't think those details were relevant with such poor pen and no other noted vulnerabilities.

 

[Talmadge]

I recently heard of a game with those rules and 5/6 pen

 

[johndoe]

Certainly possible, I only looked in one store.

 

[Abigail Quarles]

Interesting. Anyone wanna try it out?

 

[Kentxu]

Anyone have information on current conditions in Korea (Seoul)? Game info, decks, hopeful lack of CSM, the usual, and most importantly how heat is handled with foreigners...

there are 2 casinos @jeju island which have 6D S17 DAS LS games, penetration is 4.5-4.8／6.

 

[Hell'nBack]

there are 2 casinos @jeju island which have 6D S17 DAS LS games, penetration is 4.5-4.8／6.

You never said anything about heat. Does that mean there is none?

 

[johndoe]

I'd also be worried about currency conversion; if it's not equal both ways it could be quite expensive. I should have checked that while I was there.

 

[Talmadge]

there are 2 casinos @jeju island which have 6D S17 DAS LS games, penetration is 4.5-4.8／6.

Do they have many tables?
What are the table mins/maxes on those games?

 

[Kentxu]

You never said anything about heat. Does that mean there is none?

I just played a few hands at one, and had not played at the other yet.
So I can't give you any information about heat.
sorry.

 

[Kentxu]

Do they have many tables?
What are the table mins/maxes on those games?

no. Just a few tables.
when I Played at one of them last time, no one else played blackjack there, just me. so wonging in is impossible.
one of them: 20k KRW-300k KRW, 2 hands minimum (NO HOLE CARD)
another: 30k KRW-500k KRW (HOLE CARD)
10k KRW=9.55 USD

 

[Kentxu]

I'd also be worried about currency conversion; if it's not equal both ways it could be quite expensive. I should have checked that while I was there.

I had checked currency conversion in Sun Casino, it is not equal both ways, you will lost about 5-10 percent (according to my memory). Blackjack tables@Sun Casino are equipped with CSM, So I just played a few hands and left. Other casino's currency conversion maybe as same as Sun.

 

[Talmadge]

20k KRW-300k KRW, 2 hands minimum (NO HOLE CARD)
another: 30k KRW-500k KRW (HOLE CARD)
10k KRW=9.55 USD

Thanks for that info Kentxu,
I am surprised of the higher table min in relation to the low table max.

 

[Kentxu]

Thanks for that info Kentxu,
I am surprised of the higher table min in relation to the low table max.

yes, the bet range is not large in Jeju (compared to Macau 300HKD-10,000HKD).
Generally speaking ,if you want to control ROR in 0.25% with 1-16 bet spread in Jeju, you need 100K USD as bankroll.

 

[Kentxu]

there are 2 casinos @jeju island which have 6D S17 DAS LS games, penetration is 4.5-4.8／6.

upate:
I Played 10 days in Korea few weeks ago.
summary of the table condition as bellow:
Seoul:
7luck casino@ COEX (poor penetration,worthless)
8D Penetration 4.8/8, Peek, S17, LS, DAS, SPL3,RSA
Bet range (KRW):
10K-300K ----> 1 table
30K-500K ---> 1 table
50K--2M ----> 2 table
100K-3M ---> 1 table
200K-5M ---> 1 table
7luck casino@ Hilton Hotel (poor penetration,worthless)
Table rules is as same as 7luck@COEX
bet min is 30K @ COEX.
other casinos @ Seoul&Incheon use CSM.

Jeju Island:
Oriental Casino (poor penetration, worthless)
6D Penetration 3.8/6, ENHC, S17, ES10, DAS,SPL3,RSA ,2 spots minum@ 1 round(you must play 2 hands when heads-up)
discards were stacked horizontally in a special 3-layer discard tray. better to use KO counting system, because it is difficult to estimate remaining deck exactly.
Bet range:
10K-300K --> 1 Table
30K-500K --> 1 Table
MEGALUCK CASINO@ KAL HOTEL
6D Penetration Varies by dealer,3.8-4.8/6 , ENHC,S17,ES10,DAS,SPL3,2 spots minum@ 1 round(you must play 2 hands when heads-up), 3 hands most
Bet range:
20K-300K

Other record:
I Played 5 hours in first 2 days@ Megaluck, won 2.25M KRW, but penetration worsen in third day.
I guessed the dealer knew that I was counting at third day. The dealer and pit boss usually spoke Korean. I didn't understand their speech. But I heard a word "counting" from dealer, I guessed they meant I was counting.
P.S. the attachment picture is drawing of special discard tray used at Oriental Casino.

 

[sancheswei]

I am planning my Korea trip to 7 luck in Jan. as well, thank you for the info sharing

Anyone tried KISS III with poor penetration game such as 4.8/8 or 5/8 in Korea?
I am under self training for this now, any ideas?

 

[johndoe]

Don't even bother with such horrible penetration.

If anything, I'd look carefully at the 3CP or other opportunities. The one I saw was quite vulnerable, but that game requires a strong stomach.

 

[sancheswei]

The reason I would choose Korea is I am living in Asia, so I can reduce my cost and I know some AP still playing in Korea with positive results
7 luck doesn't pay much attention for betting spread(since the pen is low and it's owned by government) , there are pros and cons.
Just not sure how a unbalanced counting method would fit their rules, I will give it a try in Jan.