Korea update needed please

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65D

Active Member
#43
#43
at 7 luck (millenium + coex)...all the BJ tables are all ASM.
What 7 luck are you going to????

then after the ASM they STILL hand shuffle (the hand shuffle itself is very trackable)...but this is in ADDITION to the ASM shuffling.

There have been maybe (under 5% of the time) where I noticed they did not use the ASM, (busy hours) and only did hand shuffle, however, they actually shuffled twice in these rare circumstances.
 
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jnrwilliam

Active Member
#44
#44
65D said:
at 7 luck (millenium + coex)...all the BJ tables are all ASM.
What 7 luck are you going to????

then after the ASM they STILL hand shuffle (the hand shuffle itself is very trackable)...but this is in ADDITION to the ASM shuffling.

There have been maybe (under 5% of the time) where I noticed they did not use the ASM, (busy hours) and only did hand shuffle, however, they actually shuffled twice in these rare circumstances.
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what is table limit under that rare circum.?
min KRW 100K ?
 
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MacauData

New Member
#47
#47
65D said:
at 7 luck (millenium + coex)...all the BJ tables are all ASM.
What 7 luck are you going to????

then after the ASM they STILL hand shuffle (the hand shuffle itself is very trackable)...but this is in ADDITION to the ASM shuffling.

There have been maybe (under 5% of the time) where I noticed they did not use the ASM, (busy hours) and only did hand shuffle, however, they actually shuffled twice in these rare circumstances.
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You have answered your question already! The 5%!

And you really believe they can't identify counters? They just care who is really GOOD (means winning consistently)!

Data
 
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San

Member
#48
#48
65D said:
at 7 luck (millenium + coex)...all the BJ tables are all ASM.
What 7 luck are you going to????

then after the ASM they STILL hand shuffle (the hand shuffle itself is very trackable)...but this is in ADDITION to the ASM shuffling.

There have been maybe (under 5% of the time) where I noticed they did not use the ASM, (busy hours) and only did hand shuffle, however, they actually shuffled twice in these rare circumstances.
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In Coex 7Luck, you can ask pit boss to use hand shuffle only, no ASM involved. It's only available in 100K min table. As far as I know, many trackers are attacking it now. However, as 7Luck is still offering it today, I don't think those trackers did a good job.
 
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65D

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#49
#49
MacauData said:
You have answered your question already! The 5%!

And you really believe they can't identify counters? They just care who is really GOOD (means winning consistently)!

Data
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I believe they are not near as hawking or good at it as the casino's in the USA. From what I have experienced, vrs heard of in comparision to most all USA casinos, the heat is less.

I guess I am not good enough. (ie consistant) I lose money roughly 1/3 of the times i go. But if this has the added benefit of them not caring, then i will gladly take it!
 
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65D

Active Member
#50
#50
San said:
In Coex 7Luck, you can ask pit boss to use hand shuffle only, no ASM involved. It's only available in 100K min table. As far as I know, many trackers are attacking it now. However, as 7Luck is still offering it today, I don't think those trackers did a good job.
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IC. So it has to be special request only at max table. This is only at COEX? (not millenium?)

thanks for the info. Wasn't aware of that (im not a 100k table player)

I play the 50 mostly (and if they are not busy, sometimes even the 10 tables)
My BK can not afford a 2Mil won bet, which is the max at the 100K tables.
If my BK can not afford the max bet, with out an increased risk, then I need to take advantage of the MIN bet. The spreads on that table are only 1-20
 
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65D

Active Member
#51
#51
San said:
In Coex 7Luck, you can ask pit boss to use hand shuffle only, no ASM involved. It's only available in 100K min table. As far as I know, many trackers are attacking it now. However, as 7Luck is still offering it today, I don't think those trackers did a good job.
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IC. So it has to be special request only at max table. This is only at COEX? (not millenium?)

thanks for the info. Wasn't aware of that (im not a 100k table player)

I play the 50 mostly (and if they are not busy, sometimes even the 10 tables)
My BK can not afford a 2Mil won bet, which is the max at the 100K tables.
If my BK can not afford the max bet, with out an increased risk, then I need to take advantage of the MIN bet. The spreads on that table are only 1-20
 
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MacauData

New Member
#52
#52
65D said:
IC. So it has to be special request only at max table. This is only at COEX? (not millenium?)

thanks for the info. Wasn't aware of that (im not a 100k table player)

I play the 50 mostly (and if they are not busy, sometimes even the 10 tables)
My BK can not afford a 2Mil won bet, which is the max at the 100K tables.
If my BK can not afford the max bet, with out an increased risk, then I need to take advantage of the MIN bet. The spreads on that table are only 1-20
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BTW, 3M is the max at the 100K table!

Good for you if you lost 1/3 of instances while you can accumulate net gain. Somehow it's tough to work on volatility against camouflage. Short sessions and ratholing come to help preserving your longevity.

Good cards,
Data
 
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San

Member
#54
#54
65D said:
IC. So it has to be special request only at max table. This is only at COEX? (not millenium?)

thanks for the info. Wasn't aware of that (im not a 100k table player)

I play the 50 mostly (and if they are not busy, sometimes even the 10 tables)
My BK can not afford a 2Mil won bet, which is the max at the 100K tables.
If my BK can not afford the max bet, with out an increased risk, then I need to take advantage of the MIN bet. The spreads on that table are only 1-20
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I'm afraid hand shuffle only is not available in Millennium. As far as I know, someone requested it before, but the pit bosses in Millennium told him to go to Coex if he wants to play hand shuffle BJ.

Actually, handshuffle is also available in WalkerHill. I saw some Janpanese big players (or pretended to be big players, I'm not sure) asked for it and the pit boss allowed it. Some Japanese big players likes handshuffle only. Just remember, WalkerHill is much more sensitive to advantage players. The pit bosses there are much more experienced, unlike those ladys in 7luck.

Good luck.
 
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bigruss

Member
#56
#56
No difference in the games at 7 luck Hilton near Seoul Station and 7 luck Coex. Only difference is that sometimes at the Hilton they will deal on seven hand tables as opposed to six hand tables.

Don't know if it was some special promotion or not, but they had a 5,000 won min table at the 7 luck Hilton the other night. Never seen that before at a 7 luck.

I had always heard the Hilton was busier than Coex but as far as BJ goes, I've had shorter wait times to sit at the low end tables than at Coex.
 
halibut

halibut

Active Member
#59
#59
jnrwilliam said:
halibut said:
Hi. I went to 7 luck COEX last week and found no professional counters
that I know. Were they banned?
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even no cc at low limit table ?
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There were some amateur cc's at the 10k tables (no offense if you were there ;)) but none of those whom I recognize as professional. They used to play at COEX almost everyday.
 
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bigruss

Member
#60
#60
halibut said:
There were some amateur cc's at the 10k tables (no offense if you were there ;)) but none of those whom I recognize as professional. They used to play at COEX almost everyday.
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I think they've been banned. I got some heat spreading one to ten. Another guy I play with was spreading over into my box which is what caused the attention I think. I told him after the shoe not to do that any more. I think that's what caused it as those everyday guys were doing this habitually. Playing together on the same table and spreading big bets to as much as four boxes while betting min. on only their box on low counts. This had been going on there for quite some time and I assumed the casino just didn't care, but it appears someone got smart and put a stop to it.

Being that obvious, even there, seems to be stupid in retrospect. Hopefully, just playing the normal one to two boxes and not being obvious about it will be okay in the future. But something has definitely happened there. As many as 15 to 20 counters I used to see regularly are no longer there.
 
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