bj bob said:
I appreciate your imput ZG. I guess what you are saying is that (with heat) to let "The good times roll" until you lose a hand. That's pretty much what I've been doing for the most part. I just start to get paranoid(especially after reading about you all) if I change a bet,either up or down.By the way, when you say you still get nailed, is it because you lose the hand or get the front door exit escort by the pit bull, uh boss?
No not losing the bet, thats a coin toss. When I get nailed its typically because I played too often or too long on the same shift and I dropped my cover too much.
There are numerous valid strategies that involve making big bets in apparent or actual neg-counts, including Snyder's Depth Charging, my own Grifter's Gambit, Sklansky's Gambit, Opposition Betting, and the several variants of each.
A modest use of this theme is in the familiar scenario where the player has max bet out, wins, then dealer shuffles. Some amateurs compulsively yank their bet back as if they will get caught with it out if they don't move fast. Some of those are the most obvious counters.
Some other amateurs are a bit slower and try to appear casual like they are counting their chips, but they still wind up with the reduced bet and they didn't fool anyone.
In this simple example the pro leaves his big bet out after the shuffle and will continue to place the big bet until he loses it no matter how neg the count goes.
Certain types of shuffle tracking also can appear to make big bets in neg-EV. zg