Well tonight i managed to play for around 2.5 hours and somehow ending up losing 130 green chips. This was on a very good game... 2 deck, s17,das 1-8 spread. I had roughly 12 max bets out for the night and i lost every single one. I probably lost 75% of the other "advantage bets". No matter what i did I would lose i just keep throwing more and more money away waiting for the losing streak to turn and it never did. So i lost about a 1/3 of my BR tonight and im starting to think what the hell am i doing? I dont think I can handle the "standard deviation" and i also dont think what happened to me tonight is SD?? Anyone else have killer sessions like this before?
Session from hell
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I'll second that
Were you playing correctly? Counting correctly? Betting correctly? If you have doubts about any of those, you have something to work on.
Otherwise, your loss was just extremely bad luck. Luck will even out over time. Except when the pendulum does swing your way, you can attribute it to your brilliant play. That's what I do.
Were you playing correctly? Counting correctly? Betting correctly? If you have doubts about any of those, you have something to work on.
Otherwise, your loss was just extremely bad luck. Luck will even out over time. Except when the pendulum does swing your way, you can attribute it to your brilliant play. That's what I do.
Canceler said:
Were you playing correctly? Counting correctly? Betting correctly? If you have doubts about any of those, you have something to work on.
Otherwise, your loss was just extremely bad luck. Luck will even out over time. Except when the pendulum does swing your way, you can attribute it to your brilliant play. That's what I do.
Otherwise, your loss was just extremely bad luck. Luck will even out over time. Except when the pendulum does swing your way, you can attribute it to your brilliant play. That's what I do.
Yes, It happens
Cass,
Sounds like you took a pretty rough session. I have to agree with Zengrifter, though. Evaluate your play, adjust your betting size if needed, and get right back on the table!
I have taken many BJ beatings like you described as well, 100 plus betting units. With the best counting methods and bet spreads imaginable, losses like this do happen. The most optomistic advantage counters have at the game is supposed to be around 1 1/2%, under the best of circumstances. However, that 1.5% advatage is the best possible outcome in the LONG RUN! The hard part is determining the number of hands and table time is required to arrive at the "long run." In my experience, my bankroll usually turns positive in about 2 days, (24 hours table time) durring the worst of down turns. I have heard from fellow counters of loosing streaks lasting a week or more. It can and does happen.
However, the good news is, as has already been posted, that the wave of Standard Deviation (Luck) can and does swing both ways. Providing you don't give up, you have many sessions ahead that will see you leaving the table with 100 plus betting units of the Casino's money (providing you have minimal heat), more often than you will leave it behind.
Theoretically, statistically, mathmatically, it makes no difference, but as a rule, I try to limit my looses at any one table to 25 units, or 100 units per Casino. This little idiosyntric rule works for me but really has no influence over results, just spreads out loses when I have a down turn.
Don't give up; counting does work!
Cass,
Sounds like you took a pretty rough session. I have to agree with Zengrifter, though. Evaluate your play, adjust your betting size if needed, and get right back on the table!
I have taken many BJ beatings like you described as well, 100 plus betting units. With the best counting methods and bet spreads imaginable, losses like this do happen. The most optomistic advantage counters have at the game is supposed to be around 1 1/2%, under the best of circumstances. However, that 1.5% advatage is the best possible outcome in the LONG RUN! The hard part is determining the number of hands and table time is required to arrive at the "long run." In my experience, my bankroll usually turns positive in about 2 days, (24 hours table time) durring the worst of down turns. I have heard from fellow counters of loosing streaks lasting a week or more. It can and does happen.
However, the good news is, as has already been posted, that the wave of Standard Deviation (Luck) can and does swing both ways. Providing you don't give up, you have many sessions ahead that will see you leaving the table with 100 plus betting units of the Casino's money (providing you have minimal heat), more often than you will leave it behind.
Theoretically, statistically, mathmatically, it makes no difference, but as a rule, I try to limit my looses at any one table to 25 units, or 100 units per Casino. This little idiosyntric rule works for me but really has no influence over results, just spreads out loses when I have a down turn.
Don't give up; counting does work!
Welcome to the club Cass! I've been there so I feel your pain. There is nothing more frustrating then losing consistently with your max bet out, but it happens and its part of the game. If blackjack was so easy than everybody would be doing it. As long as you are still confident with your counting things will turn around.
Isn't losing 125 one unit bets a bit excessive?
Surely you didn't buy in for over $3000 and start playing quarters,did you?
Maybe its just me,but long before I lose 100 units,I figure its just not my day and take a walk. I know stop losses don't do anything for your longterm won/loss ratio,but they do wonders for your sanity.
Surely you didn't buy in for over $3000 and start playing quarters,did you?
Maybe its just me,but long before I lose 100 units,I figure its just not my day and take a walk. I know stop losses don't do anything for your longterm won/loss ratio,but they do wonders for your sanity.
I have "quit blackjack" three times in my life......last sunday i went into the casino on a streak of "winning the last 7 times i went in there". however on my 8th time i managed to lose 60 units of green chips. wiping out my profits for the whole 7 times with a few units to boot.
dont know wether i can get back on the horse. its been a week today and i havent been back. im going to think it over. its upsetting seeing 7 sessions of hard work down the tube in one session.
i feel your pain
dont know wether i can get back on the horse. its been a week today and i havent been back. im going to think it over. its upsetting seeing 7 sessions of hard work down the tube in one session.
i feel your pain
I, also, just finished a day from hell at the tables. Not just one table, but four in one casino and three in another. I finally went home after the last dealer got FOUR blackjacks in a row (double deck) !!!!! I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but I think the following question will add to the thread.
How can one explain this phenomenon as "variance" ?? TIA
How can one explain this phenomenon as "variance" ?? TIA