Splitting 8's vs dealer 10
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Surrender is best, but if surrender isn’t available, then,...
Splitting 8’s is a form of loss control.
You’re going to lose 16 vs 10. The question is, how much will you lose?
By splitting the 8’s, you lose less.
You turn a hideous hand (16) into two hands that are not as hideous.
Splitting 8’s is a defensive split, while splitting Aces is an offensive split.
According to the indices (Standford Wong), you split the 8’s vs 10 when
the count is not ultra-high, e.g. if TC is less than 6 or 8.
When was the last time you saw a TC of 6 or 8 while playing a shoe game?
Splitting 8’s is a form of loss control.
You’re going to lose 16 vs 10. The question is, how much will you lose?
By splitting the 8’s, you lose less.
You turn a hideous hand (16) into two hands that are not as hideous.
Splitting 8’s is a defensive split, while splitting Aces is an offensive split.
According to the indices (Standford Wong), you split the 8’s vs 10 when
the count is not ultra-high, e.g. if TC is less than 6 or 8.
When was the last time you saw a TC of 6 or 8 while playing a shoe game?
6 Deck shoe, S17, DOA, DAS, RSA, NSurr, (off the top of course).
Hand . . . . . Standing . . . Hitting . . . . Doubling . . . Splitting
8,8 vs T . . .-0.53685 . . -0.53536 . -1.07072 . . .-0.4748
Six and a bit percent difference between splitting and standing, virtually nothing between hitting and standing although if you're counting the remaining composition will affect this and will tilt the odds at plus counts.
IMHO, the difference between splittng and standing certainly isn't enough to justify the risk of splitting when I've a max bet out. I have stated this before and received a slagging from the maths purests who contribute to this forum.
Hand . . . . . Standing . . . Hitting . . . . Doubling . . . Splitting
8,8 vs T . . .-0.53685 . . -0.53536 . -1.07072 . . .-0.4748
Six and a bit percent difference between splitting and standing, virtually nothing between hitting and standing although if you're counting the remaining composition will affect this and will tilt the odds at plus counts.
IMHO, the difference between splittng and standing certainly isn't enough to justify the risk of splitting when I've a max bet out. I have stated this before and received a slagging from the maths purests who contribute to this forum.
Below image shows EVs for 8-8 vs T for 6 decks, NDAS at KO pivot with 155 cards remaining. Split strategy is to split and stand on 16. With this strategy it is best to split twice even though 3 splits are allowed.
If hand is split and strategy is to stand on 17 then standing on 8-8 is greater EV than splitting.
If late surrender is offered then surrender is the best option at pivot point for either NDAS or DAS.
For NDAS if running count increased to much over the pivot then standing becomes preferable to splitting, so pivot can serve as the index for this play.
If DAS is allowed then split EV increases by about 2% at pivot and splitting remains preferable to standing at KO pivot, so index will be beyond pivot for this play, maybe KO TC of +2.5 or so.
This data is for about 3 decks/6 remaining at KO pivot.
If hand is split and strategy is to stand on 17 then standing on 8-8 is greater EV than splitting.
If late surrender is offered then surrender is the best option at pivot point for either NDAS or DAS.
For NDAS if running count increased to much over the pivot then standing becomes preferable to splitting, so pivot can serve as the index for this play.
If DAS is allowed then split EV increases by about 2% at pivot and splitting remains preferable to standing at KO pivot, so index will be beyond pivot for this play, maybe KO TC of +2.5 or so.
This data is for about 3 decks/6 remaining at KO pivot.
