Two Hands?

[vingtetun]

I am new to this site and I would appreciate any help anyone could give.

When is it a good time to spread to two hands? I have read differing opinions. Although I don't have the book in front of me I seem to remember Snyder saying in blackbelt that it reduces volatility in plus counts and it provides camo. Here's my main game. 2d S17 DAS any two cards 70 to 90% penetration. I spread 1-6 usually with some gambits taking me to 1-8 sometimes. My general bet ladder is 1 unit at neg, 2 at slightly positive, laddering to 6 at about a 2 to 3% true edge.

I was thinking of using a two hand spread as a gambit whether it provided an additional advantage or not as long as it didn't hurt. Here's my plan, instead of betting 4 units on one hand, spread to two hands of two units if the count continues positive I can double my bet with my winnings like the ploppies and achieve a 1-8 spread with what appears to me to be nice camo. If the count goes negative I go back down to one hand.

 

[zengrifter]

When you bet two hands you can add 50% more total without increased risk (ie, 2 x 3u same as 1x 4u). zg

 

[jack.jackson]

I am new to this site and I would appreciate any help anyone could give.

When is it a good time to spread to two hands? I have read differing opinions. Although I don't have the book in front of me I seem to remember Snyder saying in blackbelt that it reduces volatility in plus counts and it provides camo. Here's my main game. 2d S17 DAS any two cards 70 to 90% penetration. I spread 1-6 usually with some gambits taking me to 1-8 sometimes. My general bet ladder is 1 unit at neg, 2 at slightly positive, laddering to 6 at about a 2 to 3% true edge.

I was thinking of using a two hand spread as a gambit whether it provided an additional advantage or not as long as it didn't hurt. Here's my plan, instead of betting 4 units on one hand, spread to two hands of two units if the count continues positive I can double my bet with my winnings like the ploppies and achieve a 1-8 spread with what appears to me to be nice camo. If the count goes negative I go back down to one hand.

What system are you using? I'll attach a CVCX canned sim for ya. (IF theres no canned sim, i'll run one)jj

 

[creeping panther]

vingtetun

I am new to this site and I would appreciate any help anyone could give.

When is it a good time to spread to two hands? I have read differing opinions. Although I don't have the book in front of me I seem to remember Snyder saying in blackbelt that it reduces volatility in plus counts and it provides camo. Here's my main game. 2d S17 DAS any two cards 70 to 90% penetration. I spread 1-6 usually with some gambits taking me to 1-8 sometimes. My general bet ladder is 1 unit at neg, 2 at slightly positive, laddering to 6 at about a 2 to 3% true edge.

I was thinking of using a two hand spread as a gambit whether it provided an additional advantage or not as long as it didn't hurt. Here's my plan, instead of betting 4 units on one hand, spread to two hands of two units if the count continues positive I can double my bet with my winnings like the ploppies and achieve a 1-8 spread with what appears to me to be nice camo. If the count goes negative I go back down to one hand.

Ving, Hello.

I have been playing a game similar to what you describe for an extended period. I have sent you a private PM and have changed my post for security reasons.

CP

 

[vingtetun]

thanks

thanks for the help.

To answer a question, I use either Red 7 or Zen depending upon various factors. If I have a lot of "other" considerations going on I use Red 7 because I barely have to think about it.

 

[jack.jackson]

Heres about the best I could do. I think only CVData, can switch-up from 1 to 2 hands. At least you could use this as a guide. Note that the top chart is a 1-12 spread.

 

[vingtetun]

thanks

thanks for the sim, I appreciate everyone's help.

 

[vingtetun]

One more q

Does anyone know how I could determine what kind of extra edge I could get with this game with a perfect insurance count as well?

 

[moo321]

That is a very good game. I wouldn't worry as much about playing two hands, but rather playing a lot of hours. If there are multiple casinos offering the same game, them be more agressive. But don't burn that game out for a little extra money.

 

[vingtetun]

I understand

I appreciate your opinion and generally I agree with it. There are particular circumstances involved which I'd rather not disclose in a public area which lead me to believe that this game may not last long (nothing illegal but facts which could identify the casino and thus me to staff). Therefore, I would like to beat the crap out of this game before it is history and I have to revert to shoes. If I could get an extra edge without changing my spread I would like to do that. Thus, my question regarding how much of an edge I could acheive with an insurance count added.

As always, I appreciate any and all advice the learned minds of this site can provide.

 

[moo321]

I appreciate your opinion and generally I agree with it. There are particular circumstances involved which I'd rather not disclose in a public area which lead me to believe that this game may not last long (nothing illegal but facts which could identify the casino and thus me to staff). Therefore, I would like to beat the crap out of this game before it is history and I have to revert to shoes. If I could get an extra edge without changing my spread I would like to do that. Thus, my question regarding how much of an edge I could acheive with an insurance count added.

As always, I appreciate any and all advice the learned minds of this site can provide.

Rather than an insurance count, you could go to an ace-neutral count.

It would have a much better insurance correlation, while also having better playing efficiency.