Weekend Warriors II

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gatherer

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#81
#81
Well I can't beat you for number of hands played, I'm currently at 1004 played but I am up $1,098

but I have a very impressive win rate of 7.34%.. something tells me that this win rate is in for a little bit of negative correction...

needless to say switching between BJ and spanish 21 strategies for practice is sure giving my brain a work out.

thats it for my weekend I'm off to work.
 

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k_c

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#82
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WW2 started

Spreads used:
Hi-Lo
TC <1: 1 unit
TC 1 to <2: 2 units
TC 2 to <3: 3 units
TC 3 to <4: 4 units
TC >=4: 5 units

Unbalanced KO (IRC=-8, add [preferred IRC + 8] to RC below to adjust for the IRC you use)
RC <-3: 1 unit
RC -2: 2 units
RC -1: 3 units
RC 0: 4 units
RC >0: 5 units

True counted KO
TC <-2: 1 unit
TC -2 to <-1: 2 units
TC -1 to <0: 3 units
TC 0 to <1: 4 units
TC >=1: 5 units

Results posted (Dead link: http://www.bjstrat.net/WW2.html) _on this page_.

Playing all hands using basic strategy in order to play 3 counts at once and compare them. More counts could be fairly easily added.
 
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Canceler

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#83
#83
k_c said:
Unbalanced KO (IRC=-4)
RC <-3: 1 unit
RC -2: 2 units
RC -1: 3 units
RC 0: 4 units
RC >0: 5 units
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:confused: Not quite sure what you're up to here, but with the standard IRC of -4, it's not +EV until an RC of +1.
 
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k_c

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Canceler said:
:confused: Not quite sure what you're up to here, but with the standard IRC of -4, it's not +EV until an RC of +1.
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I see what you mean. In my spreadsheet I reference everything as if the imbalance is 0. That way the Counts sheet will work for any imbalance/IRC the user chooses. I should have made the IRC equal to -8 relative to the spread I listed, so you wouldn't raise your bet until running count increases by 6 from whatever you have chosen as your IRC. I'll fix it in my post. Thanks.
 
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sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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#85
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k_c said:
Spreads used:
Hi-Lo
TC <1: 1 unit
TC 1 to <2: 2 units
TC 2 to <3: 3 units
TC 3 to <4: 4 units
TC >=4: 5 units
....
Results posted (Dead link: http://www.bjstrat.net/WW2.html) _on this page_.

Playing all hands using basic strategy in order to play 3 counts at once and compare them. More counts could be fairly easily added.
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also k_c no big deal. but if you was going to play the Hi-Lo stuff by that sim i posted the ramp would be a bit differant:
TC <1: 1 unit
TC 1 to <2: 1 units
TC 2 to <3: 2.5 units
TC 3 to <4: 5 units
TC >=4: 5 units
....

just thought i'd bring that up. but it's your call how you want to ramp it.
also those excel sheets and charts are way cool. :1st:
 
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k_c

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#86
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sagefr0g said:
also k_c no big deal. but if you was going to play the Hi-Lo stuff by that sim i posted the ramp would be a bit differant:
TC <1: 1 unit
TC 1 to <2: 1 units
TC 2 to <3: 2.5 units
TC 3 to <4: 5 units
TC >=4: 5 units
....

just thought i'd bring that up. but it's your call how you want to ramp it.
also those excel sheets and charts are way cool. :1st:
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I can change the spread to anything in the spreadsheet and it will be reflected everywhere. That's just what I chose to reference. If you want I can change it to your spread. :cool:
 
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sagefr0g

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#87
#87
k_c said:
I can change the spread to anything in the spreadsheet and it will be reflected everywhere. That's just what I chose to reference. If you want I can change it to your spread. :cool:
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naw it's up to you k_c, just i guess if anyone wanted to apply Kasi's spread sheet to your results the parameters of some sim would need to match your spread and then those parameters updated in his spread sheet, i guess. the sim i was using was for rational bets if it hadn't of been i think the spread would have been pretty close to what your using.
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=94557&postcount=6
 
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k_c

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#88
#88
KO Spread Correction

I still didn't describe the KO spread I'm using right. It's too late to edit my previous post, so this is it. :eek: RC was off by 1 for the last 4 entries.

Unbalanced KO (IRC=-8, add [preferred IRC + 8] to RC below to adjust for the IRC you use)
RC < -3: 1 unit
RC = -3: 2 units
RC = -2: 3 units
RC = -1: 4 units
RC >= 0: 5 units

So if IRC is -4:
RC<1: 1 unit
RC=1: 2 units
RC=2: 3 units
RC=3: 4 units
RC>=4: 5 units
 
jack.jackson

jack.jackson

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#91
#91
The Game and Conditions which all Warriors must abide by:

2D s17,D(10,11 only),ndas,NRA(1card),resplitx4 67%pen,HA-.54

10$ units
1-5 spread
10,000K BR(200MaxBets)
play all & one on one
I18 indices

jack,jackson
----------- $3,567 @ 8,944 hands
gatherer
----------- $1,098 @ 1,004 hands
Canceler
----------- ($862.50) @ 2,004 hands
Kasi
----------- $0.00 @ 0 hands
sagefr0g
----------- $892.00 @ 1,419 hands
k_c
----------- $57.00 @ 1,840 hands
aslan
----------- $25.00@ 59 hands

totals
---------- $5,639@ 15,270 hands
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
#92
#92
jack said:
The Game and Conditions which all Warriors must abide by:

2D s17,D(10,11 only),ndas,NRA(1card),resplitx4 67%pen,HA-.54

10$ units
1-5 spread
10,000K BR(200MaxBets)
play all & one on one
I18 indices

jack,jackson
----------- $3,567 @ 8,944 hands
gatherer
----------- $1,098 @ 1,004 hands
Canceler
----------- ($862.50) @ 2,004 hands
Kasi
----------- $0.00 @ 0 hands
sagefr0g
----------- $892.00 @ 1,419 hands
k_c
----------- $57.00 @ 1,840 hands
aslan
----------- $25.00@ 59 hands

totals
---------- $5,639@ 15,270 hands
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What is this sh*t? Is it llike flipping coins? You guys are spending a lot of time flipping coins, don't you think? zg
 
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k_c

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#93
#93
jack said:
The Game and Conditions which all Warriors must abide by:

2D s17,D(10,11 only),ndas,NRA(1card),resplitx4 67%pen,HA-.54

10$ units
1-5 spread
10,000K BR(200MaxBets)
play all & one on one
I18 indices

jack,jackson
----------- $3,567 @ 8,944 hands
gatherer
----------- $1,098 @ 1,004 hands
Canceler
----------- ($862.50) @ 2,004 hands
Kasi
----------- $0.00 @ 0 hands
sagefr0g
----------- $892.00 @ 1,419 hands
k_c
----------- $57.00 @ 1,840 hands
aslan
----------- $25.00@ 59 hands

totals
---------- $5,639@ 15,270 hands
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No big deal but I think you got my actual results mixed up with the calculated expected results.

Flat bet 1 unit - Actual=+10.00, Expected (calculated pre-deal EV)=-122.00, Expected (calculated full shoe EV)=-99.70
Hi-Lo - Actual=+50.00, Expected (calculated pre-deal EV)=+57.20
UKO - Actual=+60.00, Expected (calculated pre-deal EV)=+77.20
TKO - Actual=+130.00, Expected (calculated pre-deal EV)=+44.80
 
jack.jackson

jack.jackson

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#94
Well if nothing else, I at least had to show this off. 10,000 hands and counting, in a -.55 game, play-all scenario, and Im beating the game alone with a flat-bet(+.20%).

10,004 hands@4,564$w/a win-rate of 2.92%
 

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sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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#95
#95
new monaker

jack said:
....10,000 hands and counting, in a -.55 game, play-all scenario, and Im beating the game alone with a flat-bet(+.20%).
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got a new name for ya.
voodoo jackson :laugh::joker::whip:
 
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gatherer

Active Member
#98
#98
jack said:
Well if nothing else, I at least had to show this off. 10,000 hands and counting, in a -.55 game, play-all scenario, and Im beating the game alone with a flat-bet(+.20%).

10,004 hands@4,564$w/a win-rate of 2.92%
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just curious but what is a standard Deviation on a flat bet game with a -0.55 edge?

is your result for the 8000+ hands within one standard deviation?
 
jack.jackson

jack.jackson

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#99
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gatherer said:
just curious but what is a standard Deviation on a flat bet game with a -0.55 edge?

is your result for the 8000+ hands within one standard deviation?
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I dont know, let me look into it. Can you believe that:eek: Im very, very proud of it. By no means and easy task. No help whatsoever.

My pe alone is around .7 to .77
 
sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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#100
#100
gatherer said:
just curious but what is a standard Deviation on a flat bet game with a -0.55 edge?

is your result for the 8000+ hands within one standard deviation?
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i guess your talkin bout the same game we are playing but flat bet it?
for 8000 hands?
i'm not sure i did this right.
i took wwII hi/lo spreadsheet.
and just changed the units bet to one (for flat betting)
results below:
 

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