When should you split 10's?
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I still maintain that Insuring a 13 or 14 with a big bet out there does more to blow your cover than splitting 10's. Typically speaking, splitting and re-splitting 10's vs 5 & 6 combined is worth more than the index plays of standing with 12 vs 2 & 3 plus doubling 9 vs 2 and 11 vs Ace, all combined.
At Mohegan Sun (Conn.) the splitting of Tens is prohibited, as it is traditionally in England.
The pit knows that only fools and experts split Faces
or double on a soft 20.
When they see you do that - with a BIG bet - you will
be subjected to a "skills check" as you are
otherwise playing (observably) well.
The "eye" backs up the tape and sees that you had a
strong True Count, had just stood on 15 vs. a Face Card
or split 9's vs. a 7 or an Ace, took 'insurance', etc.
and now you split Faces like it's a natural move !
L.O.L.
The suits are congregating in the pit. They are behind you.
Here comes the tap on the shoulder. Too late !
:whip:
The pit knows that only fools and experts split Faces
or double on a soft 20.
When they see you do that - with a BIG bet - you will
be subjected to a "skills check" as you are
otherwise playing (observably) well.
The "eye" backs up the tape and sees that you had a
strong True Count, had just stood on 15 vs. a Face Card
or split 9's vs. a 7 or an Ace, took 'insurance', etc.
and now you split Faces like it's a natural move !
L.O.L.
The suits are congregating in the pit. They are behind you.
Here comes the tap on the shoulder. Too late !
:whip:
Splitting 10-10 is a very heaty play. It can also be a very high EV play that loses you a good casino. Almost nobody does it anymore unless they are about to end a session, are losing pretty bad already, or are unrated at a casino they care little about preserving. The standard High-Low index for 10-10 vs 6 is to split at +4 or higher but I wouldn't even consider doing it unless the count was much much higher. Check out Mathprof's Nov 1998 POM on bj21.com in their archives. He suggests waiting until at least +7 for 10-10 vs 6 and even then do it only if it fits your overall player profile. He also suggests that if the count is >+9 that the EV of the play is so strong that you should really consider trying to figure out a way to do it. Even though at that count the frequency of a 10-10 split would be rare it would still be in the top 10 of all index variations due to the high EV of the play.
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I split 10s last week at pocono downs
I got a 3 and then 10. the dealer had a 6 up 9 in the hole and I saved the table as I took his 3. I looked like a hero everytime after that when I had 10s the ploppies wanted me to split. Unfortunately opportunity only arose once more and I split the 2 hands.
I got a 3 and then 10. the dealer had a 6 up 9 in the hole and I saved the table as I took his 3. I looked like a hero everytime after that when I had 10s the ploppies wanted me to split. Unfortunately opportunity only arose once more and I split the 2 hands.
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I appropriately split tens a few weeks ago at my favorite cardroom and the dealer called to the floor person "splitting tens!". (Must be some sort of internal control at this cardroom.) Anyway, I nearly pooped my pants. Fortunately I was there at a time I don't usually come in so the floor person didn't know that I typically play perfect BS and more or less ignored the dealer.
It's the second time I've split ten's at this casino (the other time I ended up splitting them to 4 hands with no comment at all, so maybe the procedure isn't always followed). Needless to say, there won't be a 3rd time.
It's the second time I've split ten's at this casino (the other time I ended up splitting them to 4 hands with no comment at all, so maybe the procedure isn't always followed). Needless to say, there won't be a 3rd time.
You can split tens a few times on low count min bets for it to stand out less when you do it on a high count. Obviously only do it when the pit boss is watching, and the dealer has a 6 or 5 out for it to have the least amount of impact on EV.
When you split on high counts, use risk averse adjusted indices (split on 6 at +5, and split on 5 at +6), and when you do do it take a break at the end of the shoe.
If you don't want to split 10's, Doubling 8's vs 6s and 5s at counts of +2 and +4 respectively is way less of a sweat inducing move, and recoups half the EV lost from not splitting 10s.
When you split on high counts, use risk averse adjusted indices (split on 6 at +5, and split on 5 at +6), and when you do do it take a break at the end of the shoe.
If you don't want to split 10's, Doubling 8's vs 6s and 5s at counts of +2 and +4 respectively is way less of a sweat inducing move, and recoups half the EV lost from not splitting 10s.
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Either always against a 6 or never
The dealer 6 busts 42% of the time, in positive counts this rises in negative it falls.
Splitting tens against a 6 in a +4 count is correct, but in a negative count it is a mistake. If you always do so you look like a ploppy. If you do it sometimes, you look like a counter
If you do it 4 times in a neutral count with an extra $20 on the line and 3 times in a negative count with an extra $10 on the line and 3 times in a positive count with an extra $100 on the line do you make more?
Lets say you break even on the neutral bets, lose $30 on the negative bets but win 2/3rds of the big bets. Thats an extra $70.
Million hand simulations may disagree, but It can make a profit.
If you only want to do it when correct, do it if you can only find 6:5 single deck games (empty tables).:whip:
The dealer 6 busts 42% of the time, in positive counts this rises in negative it falls.
Splitting tens against a 6 in a +4 count is correct, but in a negative count it is a mistake. If you always do so you look like a ploppy. If you do it sometimes, you look like a counter
If you do it 4 times in a neutral count with an extra $20 on the line and 3 times in a negative count with an extra $10 on the line and 3 times in a positive count with an extra $100 on the line do you make more?
Lets say you break even on the neutral bets, lose $30 on the negative bets but win 2/3rds of the big bets. Thats an extra $70.
Million hand simulations may disagree, but It can make a profit.
If you only want to do it when correct, do it if you can only find 6:5 single deck games (empty tables).:whip:
First time TC was +12 and I split 4 times, and the second time +9.