which card is bad for players?????
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FLASH1296
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You are question is very unclear.
I assume that are referring to the dealer's "upcard"
You always want the dealer to display a 6, 5, 4, or 3 -- but the deuce is still BETTER (for YOU) than a 7 or higher.
Amateur players and dealers alike promulgate the utter nonsense that "The Deuce is the Dealer's Ace"
I assume that are referring to the dealer's "upcard"
You always want the dealer to display a 6, 5, 4, or 3 -- but the deuce is still BETTER (for YOU) than a 7 or higher.
Amateur players and dealers alike promulgate the utter nonsense that "The Deuce is the Dealer's Ace"
callipygian
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The cut card is also bad for players.
I guess.... hmmm..KOLAN said:
Dealers Blackjack is bad for players.... that's 2 card.
Then...
If I get 20 with 2 card thats good, but also if I get 20 with 5 card thats good too. So I guess it doesnt matter if I get 2 or 5,
provided the dealer doesn't pull 21 on 3,4,5,6,7,8, or 9 card.BJC
standard toaster
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This must be the answer to the riddle!callipygian said:
Sonny
Well-Known Member
Especially for people like David Morse:callipygian said:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2256
-Sonny-
gordon5432
Member
From an overall EV perspective the order of cards from worst to best is 5, 4, 3, 6, 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, A. The five is the worst because it will turn any stiff into a made hand which obviously favors the dealer.
KOLAN
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it is not truegordon5432 said:
3 IS bed card
bed for players
3+3=6
3+2=5
3+4=7
9+3=12
10+3=13
j+3=13
d+3=13
k+3=13
3------------------------------9 times bed
5+2=7
5+7=12
5+8=13
5+9=14
5+10=15
j+5=15
d+5=15
k+5=15
5------------------------------8 times bed
good for players
3+5
3+6
3+7
3+8
3------------------------------4 times good
5+3
5+4
5+5
5+6
5-------------------------------5 times good
cards from worst to best is 3546278910jdkA
callipygian
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Your analysis is wrong.KOLAN said:
(1) You've assumed that all bad hands are equal and all good hands are equal, which is wrong. 13 is bad and 15 is bad, but 15 is much worse than 13.
(2) You've also ignored what happens to the dealer - 5's turn dealer 12-16 into dealer 17-21; 3's turn dealer 12-16 into dealer 15-19.
P.S. In English, the dame (D) is called a queen (Q). Since most players here are from the U.S., you should probably use Q instead of D.
I don't know what he meant either since he seems to have gone from "2 is more bad than 5" in his first post to "5 is more bad than 2" in his last post.FLASH1296 said:
But, as far as what you seem to be saying, I'd much rather face a dealer upcard of 7 than a dealer upcard of 2. Heck, I'd rather face a dealer upcard of 7 than a dealer upcard of 3.
Since I have higher expected value vs the dealer 7 than a 2 or a 3 in both cases.
gordon5432
Member
Here's proof that removing the 5 would have the most advantageous effect for the player, followed by the 4.KOLAN said:
http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix7.html
nottooshabby
Well-Known Member
50 is a pretty small sample size . . .KOLAN said:
gordon5432
Member
He wants to know whether it would be more advantageous overall to remove one 4 and one 5 from a deck or one 2 and one 3. In a 1D H17 DAS DOA game with a cut card a BS player would have roughly a 1.3% edge over the house if a 4 and 5 were removed. With a 2 and 3 removed the players edge would be roughly half that, 0.66%.Kasi said:
Wizzard of Odds
In a nutshell here are percentages that the dealer will BUST, with any given card showing. One deck, dealer hit's soft 17
ACE-20%
2-35%
3-37%
4-40%
5-42%
6-43%
7-25%
8-23%
9-23%
10-23%
Check out the Wizzard of Odds site on Probability. http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix2.htmlKOLAN said:
In a nutshell here are percentages that the dealer will BUST, with any given card showing. One deck, dealer hit's soft 17
ACE-20%
2-35%
3-37%
4-40%
5-42%
6-43%
7-25%
8-23%
9-23%
10-23%
callipygian
Well-Known Member
Not a chance. You can do it if you want; there are 2,000,000 hand combinations and I'm not doing that to prove to you something as trivial as why 5 is the worst card in the deck. If you don't believe the sims, then don't believe the sims. There's nobody who has a vested interest in your playing blackjack well except for you and your mother.KOLAN said: