wong halves

[bnoc848]

since im a begginer, my friend told me to start with the HiLo then go to the wong halves count, the wong halves is very hard but effective. so my question is would it be easier to start with HiLo then once mastered move on to wong halves or start with KISS count? or KO count.


thanks, bnoc848

 

[zengrifter]

since im a begginer, my friend told me to start with the HiLo then go to the wong halves count, the wong halves is very hard but effective. so my question is would it be easier to start with HiLo then once mastered move on to wong halves or start with KISS count? or KO count.

WongHalves level-3 is definately not recommended. Start with HiLo and you may never need move on. zg

 

[bnoc848]

would it be better to start with HiLo then moving on to Uston APCor uston SS, or starting with KISS III then moving on to a better one. Or should i start with HiLo and stick with it? or KO.

thanks for your response zengrifter.

 

[Mackhack]

I started with HI-LO then moved after 6 month to KO and I'm excited if I can call it that way... and it works fine!!! If you are willing to learn 100 % BS, the KO departures you are good to go!

 

[zengrifter]

True-count adjustment is the key issue - HiLo requires it, KO and similar UB'd counts do not. zg

 

[bnoc848]

well is there a very good count that dosent use true count adjusment?

 

[Mackhack]

KO Count as it is postet a 1000 times in here!!! And just one posting above your Zengrifter told you KO and others!!! Reading!!!

 

[zengrifter]

well is there a very good count that dosent use true count adjusment?

The best "unbalanced" (ie, 'non-TC') system is a level-2 called UBZ -Unbalanced ZEN - and it performs on par with WongHalves. zg

 

[bnoc848]

ok sry for that post forget about it , so i should take the zen count and stick with it? would a better balanced count bring me more money?

 

[Mackhack]

How many more times do you wanna hear it? Use KO and 100 % BS!

BTW. Are you familiar that you max. gain about 1.6 to 1.8% over the casino with counting? Mathematically spoken you will win %1.80 per every 100 bucks you wager!

I hope you have a BK which lets you wager high enough so that you will get your big bucks back!

Good luck with your illusions!

 

[bnoc848]

ok well zengrifter says to use the zen count cause it is the best unbalanced count and your saying to use the KO count...so wich is better,

 

[Mackhack]

I can only talk bout KO and I like it so far. It easy and it works for me! I barely know people who use Zen!

 

[zengrifter]

ok well zengrifter says to use the zen count cause it is the best unbalanced count and your saying to use the KO count...so wich is better,

Not ZEN - UBZ (Unbalanced ZEN) - UBZ is a hybrid unbalanced level-2 requiring no TC-adjust and it performs as good or better than most any level-2 or 3 count.

Card Tags (2-A):

ZEN: 11222100-2-1
UBZ: 12222100-2-1

zg

 

[bnoc848]

ok thx for your response, what book can i learn the ubz?

 

[zengrifter]

Its a seperate system manual for $30-40 available from [email protected]. tell him that zengrifter referred you. zg

 

[bnoc848]

i dont like to put my credit card online, so last question, is there a better unbalanced count other than KO? thx alot zengrifter.

 

[zengrifter]

i dont like to put my credit card online, so last question, is there a better unbalanced count other than KO? thx alot zengrifter.

UBZ is better, Red7 and KISS3 are equal. zg

 

[bnoc848]

so the KISS III and red 7 count is the same as KO? wich would you recommend? ive been thinking of KISS III for a while now.

 

[supercoolmancool]

KO is the worst. I would use either Kiss III or Red Seven, whichever one you can find the most information on.

 

[Mackhack]

Why should be KO bad?