#### Eliot Jacobson

##### Member
ZG -- it is a balanced count

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For DD...

A-9 (there are 72 of these cards) x +1 = +72
T-K (except QH, there are 30 of these cards) x -2 = -60
First QH = -10
Second QH = -2

(+72) + (-60) + (-10) + (-2) = 0.

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For 6D, use this BALANCED count:

A-9 = +1
T-K = -2
QH = -6
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#### E-town-guy

##### Well-Known Member
Eliot Jacobson said:
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For DD...

A-9 (there are 72 of these cards) x +1 = +72
T-K (except QH, there are 30 of these cards) x -2 = -60
First QH = -10
Second QH = -2

(+72) + (-60) + (-10) + (-2) = 0.

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For 6D, use this BALANCED count:

A-9 = +1
T-K = -2
QH = -6
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Could you use this count for making your regular bets i.e. not lucky ladies? If this is only good for LLs then it would be better to use a regular count which isn't as effective with LL right?

#### Sonny

##### Well-Known Member
E-town-guy said:
If this is only good for LLs then it would be better to use a regular count which isn't as effective with LL right?
In some cases the LL bet is more profitable than the blackjack hands. For that reason some players prefer to use a LL-optimized strategy instead of the traditional card counting systems. Other players just like to suppliment their BJ EV with the side bet so they stick with their regular counting system. The choice is yours.

-Sonny-

#### zengrifter

##### Banned
E-town-guy said:
Could you use this count for making your regular bets i.e. not lucky ladies? If this is only good for LLs then it would be better to use a regular count which isn't as effective with LL right?
In a good (deep pene) LL game you cood use the Jacobson LL count - without the Qh values as an unbalanced 10-count/point system for primary playing and betting and just mentally adjust for Qh definciency. zg

(Though I wouldn't personally do it.)

#### rollem411

##### Well-Known Member
zengrifter said:
Here it is, SIM by Professor Jacobson UCSB. zg

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Number of decks: 2
number of hands: 100000000
Penetration: 72 cards.
Payoff schedule:
Any 20: 4-to-1
Suited 20: 10-to-1
Matched 20: 25-to-1
QH pair: 200-to-1
QH pair + BJ: 1000-to-1
Count system:
A: -1
2: 1
3: 1
4: 2
5: 2
6: 2
7: 1
8: 0
9: 0
T: -2
QofH: -2

Lucky Lady earnings per 100 rounds (per hour): \$17.6702
Wager is made 6.48534 times per 100 rounds (per hour)
Earnings per Lucky Lady \$25 bet actually placed: \$2.72463.
Key True count (make bet at this count or higher): 10

TC %EV FREQ
<=0 -33.68 60280508
1 -22.28 7150325
2 -20.12 6065264
3 -17.71 4382426
4 -15.6 4258219
5 -13.35 2941507
6 -11.29 3040900
7 -8.56 1603349
8 -6.98 2261436
9 -3.28 1530661

10 0.19 1155586
11 0.96 945176
12 2.96 797139
13 5.99 887449
14 10.61 517158
15 11.84 398814
16 15.8 483006
17 17.11 272720
18 20.06 136340
19 21.81 285145
20 27.96 132369

Does the TC at +10 work for 6-8 decks as well? And if so, the bet should always be the max?

#### dukejava1

##### New Member

Is 25 the most you should wager because of table max payouts or can you bet more in high counts.

#### zengrifter

##### Banned
dukejava1 said:
Is 25 the most you should wager because of table max payouts or can you bet more in high counts.
Most casinos will not accept larger than a 25 bet. zg

#### dukejava1

##### New Member

Casinorama in Ontario has lucky ladies that coincides with table limits of the blackjack game(I play 10-300)hi/low 25 unit for regular blackjack,what should I do for lucky ladies beyond T7?

#### zengrifter

##### Banned
dukejava1 said:
Casinorama in Ontario has lucky ladies that coincides with table limits of the blackjack game(I play 10-300)hi/low 25 unit for regular blackjack,what should I do for lucky ladies beyond T7?
What are the payoffs? This could be big for you. zg

#### dukejava1

##### New Member

Zen,at a true count of 12 I would hit the table limit 300 ,and I would be at a 5.5% adv using hi/low.

#### zengrifter

##### Banned
dukejava1 said:
Zen,at a true count of 12 I would hit the table limit 300 ,and I would be at a 5.5% adv using hi/low.
What are the LL payoffs, there? Also, what is your BR size?

Look what Panama Rick's sim says, at +8 your LL advantage is 7% -
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LLs / Hi-Lo 2-6=+1; 10,A=-1(Correlation=0.786)

TC --EV
6.0 -1.66%
7.0 2.72%
8.0 7.08%
9.0 11.57%

10.0 16.24%
11.0 21.26%
12.0 26.24%

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#### dukejava1

##### New Member

bankroll 7000,payout 1000-1,125-1,19-1,9-1,4-1,max table payout 25000

#### zengrifter

##### Banned
dukejava1 said:
bankroll 7000,payout 1000-1,125-1,19-1,9-1,4-1,max table payout 25000
Based on your small 7k BR, don't go more than \$50 except in monster counts above +10.
As you can see, your LL edge is rising at over 4% per +1 over +7. zg

#### dukejava1

##### New Member

Thank for the info Zen.

#### BlackChipBlackJack

##### Member
bnoc848 said:
i didnt understand the thing too well, so if im playing 8-deck using KO when would i take the bet?
yea anyone know a good count using KO in 8 deck to bet LL?

#### 21forme

##### Well-Known Member
It's deck dependent, so convert it to a true count and bet at TC > +7.

#### zengrifter

##### Banned
He needs KO LL-Strike RC for various deck levels. zg