Korea update needed please

#81
CSM in Hilton

revelation0928 said:
I left Seoul about 3 months ago,bj in 7 luck still dealt by hands,now I heard that it seems becoming CSM ? Anyone can confirm that?Anyway,from what I remember,7 luck COEX is the best place to CC,not 7 luck Hilton(it's 7 box and very crowded).
As Walkerhill,it's still dealt by hands,But very serious Heat,haha.
Yes, 7luck HILTON is using CSM in some of the bj tables. There are 4 tables using CSM, while the rest 6 tables are still shoe game.

For 7luck Coex, I haven't been there for a while. I might go there later today. I'll keep you updated.
 

jerseyshop101

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#82
chichow said:
You have to keep your receipt when you exchange your foreign currency for korean won.

you can get back your foreign currency (up to the amount you changed in) at the same rate.

your winnings i would change elsewhere. The rate at the casino is bad.
The rate at Gimpo is also bad.
The rate at Incheon is less bad.

I don't know if you can change at a bank or if you need to have a bank account.
No bank account needed. The banks are always a ripoff with the exchange rate also. Going to a money exchange store will get you about 3% more. A lot of these exchange stores are located right across from the banks. I always go to the ones in Itaewon, about 10 minutes south of the 7luck in Seoul for the better rate.
 
#84
San said:
Yes, 7luck HILTON is using CSM in some of the bj tables. There are 4 tables using CSM, while the rest 6 tables are still shoe game.

For 7luck Coex, I haven't been there for a while. I might go there later today. I'll keep you updated.
Bad news, both 7luck Hilton and Coex are using CSM for 10,000 won table now. If you want to play shoe game, you need to play 50,000 or 100,000 won table.
 

halibut

Active Member
#85
San said:
Bad news, both 7luck Hilton and Coex are using CSM for 10,000 won table now. If you want to play shoe game, you need to play 50,000 or 100,000 won table.
Thanks for the info. I hope Walkerhill won't follow this.:(
 

chichow

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#86
that would be worse than before, but on par for large places like Vegas and others...rather than have consistent rules on all games, have better rules on high min tables.

if your bankroll can afford it, the higher limit tables are going to give you more hands per hour generally since there are less players.
 

jerseyshop101

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#87
Anyone know if the 7luck comps are any good? I knew a while back the Walker Hill gift certificates that you could redeem your points for were pretty good.

Has anyone here stayed at the 7luck Millennium Hilton. I think its overpriced (min. aprrox $270 US), and probably not worth staying there without it being comped in some way. EDIT: After just reading the reviews on this hotel, including some rooms still having analog tv's from the 80s, it most likely would be a disappointment to stay there, unless it was a free comp.
 
#88
jerseyshop101 said:
Anyone know if the 7luck comps are any good? I knew a while back the Walker Hill gift certificates that you could redeem your points for were pretty good.

Has anyone here stayed at the 7luck Millennium Hilton. I think its overpriced (min. aprrox $270 US), and probably not worth staying there without it being comped in some way. EDIT: After just reading the reviews on this hotel, including some rooms still having analog tv's from the 80s, it most likely would be a disappointment to stay there, unless it was a free comp.
-- Hilton is not value for money.
-- 7 Luck : better to get a gold card 4 comp. by ask other gd cd member to recommend u.
 

jerseyshop101

Well-Known Member
#91
I'll have to get a fellow American who only plays roulette or the other games :)

No luck getting to Seoul today, some kind of crane accident over the train tracks.
 

jerseyshop101

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#92
Didn't have a good session, was up early then gave it back and then some. Lot of tourists were in, I'm starting to think 7Luck gave them Basic Strategy Info Cards with their own version of basic strategy that says to stay on any soft 17, lol. I know it doesn't matter, but I seen 3 separate players do it.

No luck on the upgrade yet, although I did get a new card with a new expiration date. They make the expiration date the same as your passports, so its good for up to 10 years.
 

jerseyshop101

Well-Known Member
#93
7Luck casino Comps

Just wanted to pass some info on the comps.

In approx 40 hours of play, I accumulated 340,000 won/points. At your request they transfer the points to a debit card, (called Shinhan Bank Korea Travel Card) that can be used at millions of stores throughout Korea. This is really a great feature as you are not forced to use it at the more expensive hotels or stores/restaurants of the casino itself. You can use it almost everywhere; at E-marts, department stores, even grocery stores.

I was surprised ay how many Koreans do not use a players card, some have even told me its stupid and bad luck to use a players card, lol. But I quickly realized why (in their case), once the dealers swipe the cards at the table, the dealer has each persons picture on the computer screen assigned to which seat they are playing at. There is no doubt that some Koreans are entering the casino using someone else players card to gain entrance. Then these same Koreans who told me it was stupid and bad luck to use the card then told me that there are some Chinese casino regulars that buy the debit cards from people for 85% of their value, lol. (The Shinhan Bank debit cards don't have any names on them).

So even with the lower level gold card, averaging $8 an hour in comps seems very generous (although I have no clue what it is in the states). And these comps are in addition to the free food you can order within the casino. So even if you break even at the tables, you still had a +EV day.

Is this average per hour in comps the norm for a lower limit hand player?
 
#94
jerseyshop101 said:
Just wanted to pass some info on the comps.

In approx 40 hours of play, I accumulated 340,000 won/points. At your request they transfer the points to a debit card, (called Shinhan Bank Korea Travel Card) that can be used at millions of stores throughout Korea. This is really a great feature as you are not forced to use it at the more expensive hotels or stores/restaurants of the casino itself. You can use it almost everywhere; at E-marts, department stores, even grocery stores.

I was surprised ay how many Koreans do not use a players card, some have even told me its stupid and bad luck to use a players card, lol. But I quickly realized why (in their case), once the dealers swipe the cards at the table, the dealer has each persons picture on the computer screen assigned to which seat they are playing at. There is no doubt that some Koreans are entering the casino using someone else players card to gain entrance. Then these same Koreans who told me it was stupid and bad luck to use the card then told me that there are some Chinese casino regulars that buy the debit cards from people for 85% of their value, lol. (The Shinhan Bank debit cards don't have any names on them).

So even with the lower level gold card, averaging $8 an hour in comps seems very generous (although I have no clue what it is in the states). And these comps are in addition to the free food you can order within the casino. So even if you break even at the tables, you still had a +EV day.

Is this average per hour in comps the norm for a lower limit hand player?
I think the comp points is normal if you play 50,000 won table. If you played at 10,000 won table, then it's pretty generous.
 

jerseyshop101

Well-Known Member
#95
Ref the players card: after you redeem your points off your card for a debit card, you can then sell the debit card for 94% cash (totally legal and legit) outside the casino at gift card shops.
 

ortango

Well-Known Member
#96
Been a few years but went to check out my old stomping grounds last month (Aug11) and not much has changed.

The reason why you don't get backed off is that the 7luck chain is run by the the Korean Ministry of Tourism, so they don't really back off any counters. In 2006-7 I spent over 1000 hours in there, and never saw anyone backed off except for rudeness. I became friends with most of the waitresses, hosts and even some dealers. They do not 86 anyone for counting, at least at the level I was playing (spread 10-200).

Another nice bennie is the outstanding free restaurant for players serving traditional Korean and western food, all very good quality.

I made a few thousand $ off the players cards as well which bump up the value.

Koreans are some of the most compulsive and superstitious gamblers (I should know my entire family is Korean). The casino Koreans can go to is called Kangwondo Land, a resort, but I would not recommend it over the choices in Seoul.

If anyone has any questions about cultural customs, or tips I can give, just ask... been working as a Korean linguist for 14 years.
 

Baka

New Member
#97
Banning at Seoul 7luck

So is it a good idea to use a membership card at 7luck casino for the benifit of the comps or rather not due to they might look at you for your wins ?
 

Baka

New Member
#98
If anyone has any questions about cultural customs, or tips I can give, just ask... b

Would much appreciate if you can tell me where is the best place to change KWN into US$ and is there a limit amount you can change?
 

jerseyshop101

Well-Known Member
#99
Baka said:
Would much appreciate if you can tell me where is the best place to change KWN into US$ and is there a limit amount you can change?
The best rates are always found near the US military bases. Itaewon is only 5 minutes away from Seoul Station/7Luck Casino. There's no limit. There's also no id required if exchanging Korean cash (not Korean cheques) at the money exchanges either (the banks and casinos will want your id/passport#).
 
Baka said:
So is it a good idea to use a membership card at 7luck casino for the benifit of the comps or rather not due to they might look at you for your wins ?
Always use your card at 7luck. I played the other day for almost 5 hours and was credited 52,000 won. They now issue the debit cards right at the cashier cage.

I've witnessed some players receiving 10% "cash back" checks (from their previous losses) right at the table from the casino host. I was told that this is totally separate from their players card comps. Supposedly this is for their higher level players, but I will check into this.
 
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