luck

aslan · Nov 29, 2008

sagefr0g said:

So how was the Bash? Did everyone meet up with your expectations as to what they would be like in person? lol I bet you had a blast. Where was it, BTW? Did you team up on the casino? lol Any good stories to report?

jack.jackson · Nov 29, 2008

aslan said:

The 2009 bash is already in the making. We just might have to grace them next time around, with our presence sir aslan?

aslan · Nov 29, 2008

jack said:

I suggest the bash to end all bashes on December 21, 2012. We should be planning for the big one now!!! It promises to be a real blast!!! zg might even be tempted to pick up the tab!!! But you'll have to deal with him on that one. :laugh:

sagefr0g · Nov 29, 2008

the bj bash was way, way kewl, lol, haven't done such a cool blackjack thing since meeting up with Kasi the enigmatic one at the mountaineer.
currently the location is classified top secret, lol. let us just say it's within the fearsome territories of a stealthy predator, one of his many estates that stretch across the mid-west, hidden secrets shall we say.:cool2:
i've yet to write much on the subject as it is one of the dark subjects i think most of us on this forum, the nature of which understand full well, lol.
i shall, though if my keyboard doesn't fail me soon spin a yarn, perhaps coded, shrouded maybe in poetry try and tell the tale of the mid-west bj bash.

a few links of which are below:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=109251&postcount=1
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=12277
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=12297

jack said:

and that you gentelman should. and in your honor i'd do my best to arrange that you recieve a gift , a coat, a coat of coats that bears our coat of arms, cryptic symbols emblazened upon representing those in our region who practice the arts and sciences of advantage play.
an honor not unlike that in which Don Quioxte recieved the Golden Helm of Mambrino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp7tXrKjQM

aslan · Nov 29, 2008

sagefr0g said:

the bj bash was way, way kewl, lol, haven't done such a cool blackjack thing since meeting up with Kasi the enigmatic one at the mountaineer.
currently the location is classified top secret, lol. let us just say it's within the fearsome territories of a stealthy predator, one of his many estates that stretch across the mid-west, hidden secrets shall we say.:cool2:
i've yet to write much on the subject as it is one of the dark subjects i think most of us on this forum, the nature of which understand full well, lol.
i shall, though if my keyboard doesn't fail me soon spin a yarn, perhaps coded, shrouded maybe in poetry try and tell the tale of the mid-west bj bash.

a few links of which are below:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=109251&postcount=1
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=12277
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=12297

and that you gentelman should. and in your honor i'd do my best to arrange that you recieve a gift , a coat, a coat of coats that bears our coat of arms, cryptic symbols emblazened upon representing those in our region who practice the arts and sciences of advantage play.
an honor not unlike that in which Don Quioxte recieved the Golden Helm of Mambrino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp7tXrKjQM

Hey, he looks a lot like me!!! :laugh: Maybe that's why I'm always chasing rainb...er...windmills! View attachment 1736

sagefr0g · Nov 29, 2008

aslan said:

yup, one day you might just catch one. or maybe, probably i'm guessin you already have, like moi.

jack.jackson · Nov 29, 2008

aslan said:

This has been on my mind as well. Im gonna try to get up to Alaska, to take some pictures of the Northern lights. Their predicting some pretty intense storms, because of our 11 year Sunspot cycle, is coinciding with our Solar system moving from the top of the Milky way to beneath it. A rare cosmilogical event. A polar shift is definitely possible. Woohoo!

sagefrog said:

How I am supposed to respond to this? What kind of coat exactly are we talking about? I want mine to be blue or black denim with a jack of spades patch on the back. Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwww, I would think I was so cool if I ahd that. Keep working on it!

Ps I dont like leather.

pss. Whos that scary looking guy on the white horse?

sagefr0g · Nov 29, 2008

jack said:

lol, they are cotton, but you have permission to sew or have sewn on the garment what ever you like. coat was used poetically, crytic ya know. trust me you'll like it.

the Man of la Mancha. best rendition here:
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Man_of_La_Mancha/60010627?mqso=80020215&partid=Man_of_La_Mancha

Kasi · Nov 30, 2008

sagefr0g said:

Well, what I meant by changing units was changing the number of units you bet at any count. Like I thought the sheet you posted had 1.2 units at -3, 2.4 units at -2, 4 units at -1 & 0, 8 units at =1,2&3 and 10 units after that. And 1 unit from -9 to -4.

As long as that unit spread remains unchanged, you can change roll (say $6K and unit to $5) and $unit size to anything you want. Most things will still agree with the sim picture - things like avg adv (.874% in sim - I got .873%), avg unit bet (sim has 2.145 - I get 2.144) stan dev per round (sim gets 3.895 units - I get 3.893 units), win rate per 100 hds in units (sim gets 1.874 - I get 1.871), N0 won't change. DI won't change.

What will change is the dollar amount of your avg bet, the dollar amount of EV per round, the dollar amount of stan dev per round. The ROR too if the number of units in roll change.

We must be using slightly different sheets because I just noticed one of your pics has a line for hands played per hour and the sheet you posted doesn't have it lol.

And it could still be a screwed up sheet too!

Doesn't matter - the idea is run your sim, and decide how to bet it with how nuch and go for it if you like it. Run a few so you'll know what to bet if pen changes. Or if you decide to back-count just because maybe once you are behind a table and you can do it. Know what to bet to keep the risk where you like it.

Then keep track of results frequently. Ideally grouping by same game. Track your luck lol.

O wait - I forgot this is voodoo lol. Bet any darn way you want anytime you feel like it lol. You can still win often, and last a long long time lol.

sagefr0g · Nov 30, 2008

Kasi said:

ohhh, ok, yeah i'm pretty sure i posted some images of a differant sheet ( i got a bunch of them) just as an example for something else and then later on i posted the ko sheet, i'm pretty sure it's ok.

jack.jackson · Nov 30, 2008

sagefr0g said:

Why wasnt this mentioned in the original thread? If I knew they were giving out free t-shirts, I wouldnt of thought twice about attending this event. Nobody tells me anything. I guess I'll just have to attend next years event.:eyepatch:

aslan · Dec 1, 2008

jack said:

Free t-shirts!!!! I'd a brought the neighbors, too!!! Dang!!!!!!!

sagefr0g · Dec 1, 2008

aslan said:

t-shirts, T-SHIRTS! does't thou not know what these are?
mantle of honor guys. get it right. geesh.

watch this flick, the helm of helm part (Golden Helmet of Mambrino):
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Man_of_La_Mancha/60010627?mqso=80020215&partid=Man_of_La_Mancha

Golden Helmet Of Mambrino
DON QUIXOTE
Hand over that golden helmet!

BARBER
But this is a shaving basin!

DON QUIXOTE
Shaving basin! Know thou not what this really is?
The Golden Helmet of Mambrino!
When worn by one of noble heart, it renders
him invulnerable to all wounds!
(to the Barber whacking the barrel with his sword)
Hand it over!

Thou Golden Helmet of Mambrino,
With so illustrious a past,
Too long hast thou been lost to glory,
Th'art rediscovered now at last!
Golden Helmet of Mambrino
There can be no hat like thee!
Thou and I now, ere I die now,
Will make golden history!

BARBER
(aside to Sancho)
I can hear the cuckoo singing
In the cuckooberry tree...

SANCHO
(aside to Barber)
If he says that that's a helmet,
I suggest that you agree...

BARBER
(aside to Sancho)
But he'll find it is not gold
And will not make him bold and brave...

SANCHO
(aside to Barber)
Well, at least he'll find it useful
If he ever needs a shave!

DON QUIXOTE
Thou Golden Helmet of Mambrino,
Thy deeds the world will not forget,
Now Don Quixote de La Mancha,
Will bring thee greater glory yet!

DON QUIXOTE, BARBER, SANCHO, MULETEERS
Golden Helmet of Mambrino
There can be no hat like thee.

DON QUIXOTE
Thou and I now, ere I die now,
Will make golden history!

BARBER, SANCHO, MULETEERS
Golden Helmet of Mambrino
Will make golden history!

Katweezel · Dec 1, 2008

"Lucky people generate their own good fortune."

Sage, not sure if I got this right, but I think I am posting on the end of page 26 of your 'Luck' thread. (Is this the longest thread in history?) I came across this quote from Richard Wiseman's book: The Luck Factor (2003) He was a psychologist and his book did not focus on casinos or gambling.

Here is his bottom line quote: "Lucky people generate their own good fortune via four basic principles. They are skilled at creating and noticing chance opportunities, make lucky decisions by listening to their intuition, create self-fulfilling prophesies via positive expectations, and adopt a resilient attitude that transforms bad luck into good."

These look like a good framework to begin expecting more 'good luck.' Although, probably more than a few of the BJ book-Gurus-authors, would strongly suggest that intuition is voodoo, when it comes to gambling. But we are not gambling, are we... We are GAMING because we have the house edge at blackjack and therefore, we can control...variance, heh heh.

sagefr0g · Dec 1, 2008

Katweezel said:

i'm glad you posted that, i'd seen some of Wiseman's stuff before but it got lost in the suffle, lol.
http://www.richardwiseman.com/

me, i'm just a gambler, a proud honorary member of the MMOA those of whom i'm quite confident hold the edge through science and maths such as are written of in orthodox bj books and more.
i guess we can fiddle around with variance, just not so sure about controlling it.

aslan · Dec 1, 2008

sagefr0g said:

Don't miss the nex MMOA festival! (Dead link: http://www.metalcamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=233)

aslan · Dec 1, 2008

sagefr0g said:

Variance is easy to control once you realize that it is unalterable. At the same time, you must realize that it is designed to never yield the desired outcome. Therefore, you will derive the greatest degree of happy outcomes by simply ignoring it altogether. Beware, however, that if you ignore it for the purpose of influencing a happy outcome, it will only make it yield an unhappy one, as it is designed, as said before, to never yield the desired outcome. Can I make it any clearer?

aslan · Dec 1, 2008

sagefr0g said:

See MMoA in action!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX-mYGl0_wc

Or get your own MMOA T-shirt

http://www.zazzle.com/boa_me_na_me_mmoa_wo_shirt-235118920802586133

Or visit our website

(Dead link: http://www.importgenius.com/importers/usa-mmoa-inc.html)

Or apply for a MMOA scholarship

(Dead link: http://www.macmoaa.com/resources/Scholarship+Application+2008.doc)

Or join us in a stretch class

http://www.youcandoitnow.net/pdf/class_schedule.pdf

Or on an observer cruise

(Dead link: http://www.mmo-association.org/membership.html)

Or help us eradicate poverty

(Dead link: http://www.newtimesonline.com/content/view/12513/147/)

It's all about preservation, enhancement or creation of natural resources

http://www.midwestmoa.com/

Let me take this opportunity to thank you for flying MMOA

http://www.mooneymite.com/articles/Old MMOA photos set 2.htm

aslan · Dec 1, 2008

aslan said:

Sorry-

Stretch class information may be found as follows

(Dead link: http://www.youcandoitnow.net/class_schedule.shtml)

sagefr0g · Dec 1, 2008

aslan after all that i still wanna bestow upon you our mantle of honor

MMOA Midwest Masters Of Advantage, there is no website honoring the few, the far inbetween and the strong.
hopefully, i can be more than a 'PX hero' lol. the rest that bear it's crest are i can assure one and all the real deal.:1st:

luck

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