stupidest play you've seen?

UK-21

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#61
Someone I know, doesn't play BJ too often but when he does he follows the mimmick the dealer strategy. Never splits or doubles and keeps hitting until he pulls 17 regardless of the dealer's card on show. Have had he conversation about the dynamics of the game, but have given up on the grounds that it's his money to play as he wishes. Probably one reason why he doesn't play BJ that often? He considers it a boring game, and can't see how anyone can wan't to play it for hours on end. My response was because I'll win more, or lose less, than you will playing roulette.

Funnily enough, he's extremely numerate, but I think he leaves all that behind when he goes on holiday to Las Vegas.

Mimmick the dealer - c7% HE??
 

aslan

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#62
UK-21 said:
Someone I know, doesn't play BJ too often but when he does he follows the mimmick the dealer strategy. Never splits or doubles and keeps hitting until he pulls 17 regardless of the dealer's card on show. Have had he conversation about the dynamics of the game, but have given up on the grounds that it's his money to play as he wishes. Probably one reason why he doesn't play BJ that often? He considers it a boring game, and can't see how anyone can wan't to play it for hours on end. My response was because I'll win more, or lose less, than you will playing roulette.

Funnily enough, he's extremely numerate, but I think he leaves all that behind when he goes on holiday to Las Vegas.

Mimmick the dealer - c7% HE??

I used to reason the same way. I figured if the house did it, it must be the best way to play. Needless to say, I rarely won. :laugh::whip:
 

Nynefingers

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#63
palroot said:
Was playing at table yesterday with a guy who stood on every hand he was dealt. He said that he plays just for the dealer to break. Cashed in for $1000 and proceeded to play $100 per hand. He stood on 11's, pairs of Aces etc... never took a hit. He claimed that he is afraid to take the dealers "break card" and that this was one of "four" successful betting strategies that he employs. I was really looking forward to hearing about the other "three" strategies but he wasn't there long enough to explain them.
I once played at a table with a group of regulars that all knew each other. They made some incredibly bad plays at times. At one point, they decided that we should all play that way, no hits, no surrenders. Just take our cards and hope for the best. Needless to say, I politely declined :laugh: Of course, they weren't betting $100/hand like your player.
 

Katweezel

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#65
aslan said:
I used to reason the same way. I figured if the house did it, it must be the best way to play. Needless to say, I rarely won. :laugh::whip:
Perhaps at that time, you were not the brightest auditor on the guvmint payroll? :eek:
 

aslan

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#66
Katweezel said:
Perhaps at that time, you were not the brightest auditor on the guvmint payroll? :eek:
I had never given much thought to blackjack

I didn't have a clue how to play, nor does anyone else without the advice of others.

Just look how many years that there was no idea of basic strategy, like back in the 50's

It was the computer that made blackjack a playable game, both in terms of BA and in terms of counting
 

aslan

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#68
daddybo said:
Actually it was the calculator.
As in Playing Blackjack to Win? (circa 1957) or the Smitty System or how about Jess Marcum who didn't even need a calculator and was banned throughout the US in the 1950's/60's? But it was the computer that really brought us into the modern era of card counting. But I'll give you extra credits for your response. You are indeed a master of blackjack history.:1st:
 

pooptarts92

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#69
ok I got some good plays for you guys. Today I saw THE WORST player of all my life, I don't think I'll ever encounter anyone stupider. It was some really drunk older asian man, maybe in his 40's or 50's. Like really drunk, he was cut off at one point. He would wave soft totals (less than 17) against non-bust cards, double soft 19 on a face, waved hard 7 on a face, split 3's vs a 5 and doubled hard 13, got another 3 and waved it... Oh and the best one, he doubled hard 17 vs my 9 and pulled a 3! And I made 21... Like it was the most ridiculous man I've ever encountered. He split 10's at least 5 times also. He also asked me what I thought about his play... I said "No comment, play how you want sir" just to make sure I didn't piss him off, he was super drunk and really ****in crazy. When he "waved" hands it wasn't as much of a wave as it was sticking up his middle finger... Like he actually stuck his middle finger up at me or the cards countless times, which actually made me laugh. It was the most ****ed up person I've ever seen yet.
 

Deathclutch

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#70
pooptarts92 said:
ok I got some good plays for you guys. Today I saw THE WORST player of all my life, I don't think I'll ever encounter anyone stupider. It was some really drunk older asian man, maybe in his 40's or 50's. Like really drunk, he was cut off at one point. He would wave soft totals (less than 17) against non-bust cards, double soft 19 on a face, waved hard 7 on a face, split 3's vs a 5 and doubled hard 13, got another 3 and waved it... Oh and the best one, he doubled hard 17 vs my 9 and pulled a 3! And I made 21... Like it was the most ridiculous man I've ever encountered. He split 10's at least 5 times also. He also asked me what I thought about his play... I said "No comment, play how you want sir" just to make sure I didn't piss him off, he was super drunk and really ****in crazy. When he "waved" hands it wasn't as much of a wave as it was sticking up his middle finger... Like he actually stuck his middle finger up at me or the cards countless times, which actually made me laugh. It was the most ****ed up person I've ever seen yet.
Those are the most basic of cover plays, he almost broke your casino.
 

pooptarts92

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#71
Deathclutch said:
Those are the most basic of cover plays, he almost broke your casino.
You're absolutely right, in fact I remember the casino manager saying something like "Oh mah gawd this guy can put the lights out in this place" :laugh:
 

1357111317

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#72
I saw a guy double a stiff hand vs bust cards at least 6 or 7 times in 2 shoes. Then he doubled a 16 v 10. And he was pissed the wole time cause he wasn't winning.
 

aslan

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#73
1357111317 said:
I saw a guy double a stiff hand vs bust cards at least 6 or 7 times in 2 shoes. Then he doubled a 16 v 10. And he was pissed the wole time cause he wasn't winning.
That's cuz he did it at the wrong time. :cool:
 

pooptarts92

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#74
1357111317 said:
I saw a guy double a stiff hand vs bust cards at least 6 or 7 times in 2 shoes. Then he doubled a 16 v 10. And he was pissed the wole time cause he wasn't winning.
I've seen a guy like this before, doubles 14 and all kinds of dumb plays. After losing his money he said "it must not be my day".:laugh:
 
#75
Dealer shows six, guy sitting on third base splits 88 upon table urging. Two hands come up 83 8A. Hits the 8A, draws a six, proceeds to bust. Hits the 83, draws a four, hits draws a 2, and then hits his 17, busts. Dealer flips sixteen, busts, and pays everyone at the table except third base.
 
#76
Watched a guy stand on A/4 against a dealer 9. Just me and him at the table and I told the dealer to hold up after he waved it off and tried to convince him. Anything I said he would just reply "nope","nope", "nope". Dealer 19 of course.


Another almost blunder, even though it technically wouldn't have been a mistake, went like this.


Me and one other guy at the table, I'm at 2nd and I have a large bet out ($400), he's in the anchor. The dealer at the time didn't particularly like me, and I wasn't sure why at the time (I found out later and I will explain at the end). Anyways she fumbled a card out of the shoe, it kind of sailed up on her, the face stayed down as to not reveal it, but from my vantage point, I saw CLEARLY it was a King. I get dealt 2/5 and anchor gets dealt A/6. The up card for the dealer is a 6, I KNOW she has 16.

Thinking back to double exposure I know that a 7 is a double against a 16, I double down. The dealer stares at me for a few seconds because I play perfect strategy religiously and she had to of known I caught a peek of the card she fumbled. So I double down and got a 10 for 17. Anchor routinely hits his A/6 (he hadn't been doubling it all day), which I had no problem with at the time. Yet again she fumbles a card and this one ends up dead center on the table, flipped up, a Jack.

Pit comes over and says the hand is to be played and the Anchor could decide if he wanted the card or if it was to be passed to the dealer. He said that he still wanted the card! I said NOOOO! Explaining to him that he knows it won't change his hand value, while at the same time we know the dealer can only have a few cards under that can hurt us.

I of course knew the dealer would bust out with 26, but I played it off (and it's general logic so it wasn't hard) that this would give us the best chance to win the hand. He thought about it for a few seconds and waved his Soft 17. The dealer flipped for 16 and of course the bust happened.

After that the dealer calls over the Pit Boss and whispers to him. He just kind of opened his hands and looked puzzled and that was the end of it.


Her shift changed and she left, the Pit Boss who I talk to 5 days a week came over and said she doesn't like you eh? I asked why and he told me she had mentioned before that I play the game at too fast of a rate. Meaning when I get things like 5/2 and I hit for another 2 and hit again, she thinks I'm scraping for another card too quickly. We laughed about it.
 

Blue Efficacy

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#79
muppet said:
a few weeks ago i stayed on a three-card 11 against dealer's 5 up. i thought i had 12
Same thing happened to me one night, almost.

I had a 2 card 11, and thought I had 12. Waved it off. Fortunately, the whole table was basically saying "what the hell are you doing?" Of course I immediately place a double down bet and get 21. I was lucky I even got a chance to fix my mistake, as the dealer was the most tired one I had ever seen, literally required the floor to babysit him so he could correct his mistakes. Even in that state of his he was wondering what the hell I was doing.

Shortly after this I retired to my room :laugh:

In all seriousness this is a reminder to not play tired.
 
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