Single deck, S17, DAS, 15 vs 10. According to your B.S. generator I should hit, but this tells me I should surrender. What it the correct play? Does the discrepancy have to do with hand composition? (I had king-5)
The correct strategy is hit. I checked the source for the trainer, and it does appear this is a bug.
In 2 or more decks S17 LS, you should surrender 15vT. In 1 deck S17 LS, you should hit.
The trainer is inaccurate, only in the one deck version.
Thanks for pointing this out. I’ll make sure it is corrected in the new software.
Yes, basic strategy is the best way to play your hands, whether shuffled by hand or by machine, including continuous shuffle machines.
As for card counting, continuous shuffle machines eliminate the ability to count cards, but regular shuffle machines do not.
Was in Vegas May 20-23. Bally’s has 3-2, 8 deck shoe, DH soft 17 & surrender. Started at $10 and progressively increased to $25 before I left. No grandfathering of bets though.
Last time I played in Missouri may have been 15 years ago. At that time, they still had a $500/hour buyin limit (I think that was abolished long ago.)
The games were fine though. I can’t say about the current situation. Let us know what you find.
That’s correct, but only in single deck. In 1 deck, hit a hand of (7,8)vT, but surrender all the other 15vT hands.
Why? Well, your hand of (7,8) includes none of the cards you would like to receive as a hit card, while the other 15s do.
Again, this only matters in single deck, where the effect of a single card makes a bigger difference.
Forgive me as I’m a beginner. So when counting cards, the more negative the count, the more beneficial hitting the (7,8) would be since you seek the 5 and 6 from the other hard 15 combinations of the player.
Yes, negative counts would mean you are more likely to be able to improve the hand by hitting. This effect is however somewhat offset by the fact that the dealer is also less likely to bust if he has a small card under. But you’ve got the right idea.
In a 6D H17 game, you should hit 15vT in negative counts, but surrender at true counts of 0 or more.
WOW! Vegas is absolute shit now! And I keep dreaming about going there and trying out their blackjack tables. I currently reside in Hong Kong so I go to Macau to play and they have some, what I feel, pretty awesome rules namely: 50% surrender (unless dealer shows ace), black jack even pay (if you choose 1 to 1 surrender), Push on dealer and player blackjack, BJ pay out is 3-2, doubling after splitting is allowed, can double on any hand (some casinos only allows you to double at 11). And no tipping (house rules); if you tip, it goes directly to the casino.
I also went to Singapore Universal Studios and they have a casino there. They play Pontoon which is pretty awesome as well. All rules are the same except no “50% surrender of hands” but they have a nice perk of any 21 or black jack is an auto-win. So, for example, if dealer is showing an “A” and you have 10 and 2 and draw a 9 to reach a total of “21”, then you collect right away. How awesome is that!?
Anyway, I’ve only started playing recently. Good luck guys!
ความแตกต่างสำหรับดีลเลอร์ที่ต้องจั่วเมื่อแต้มรวม 17 แบบนุ่มคืออะไร? ถ้าเป็นไปได้ ผมอยากได้แผนภูมิแบบนั้นด้วย ขอบคุณครับ
ขณะนี้ฉันยังไม่ได้เผยแพร่ดัชนี H17 บนเว็บไซต์ คุณสามารถรับได้ที่ บัตรกลยุทธ์ขั้นสูง ถ้าคุณต้องการ.
Single deck, S17, DAS, 15 vs 10. According to your B.S. generator I should hit, but this tells me I should surrender. What it the correct play? Does the discrepancy have to do with hand composition? (I had king-5)
The correct strategy is hit. I checked the source for the trainer, and it does appear this is a bug.
In 2 or more decks S17 LS, you should surrender 15vT. In 1 deck S17 LS, you should hit.
The trainer is inaccurate, only in the one deck version.
Thanks for pointing this out. I’ll make sure it is corrected in the new software.
Here’s the accurate strategy chart you mentioned…
https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackjack-basic-strategy-engine/?numdecks=1&soft17=s17&dbl=all&das=yes&surr=ls&peek=yes
ใครสามารถอธิบายเหตุผลเบื้องหลังการอยู่ต่อที่ A,7 ได้บ้างเมื่อเทียบกับการอยู่ต่อที่ A พร้อมกับ TC 1 หรือมากกว่า? ขอบคุณครับ
ตามที่ GameMaster เขียนไว้ ในเกม 6D S17 คุณควรยืนกับ A7vA ที่ TC +1 หรือสูงกว่า.
(หมายเหตุ: ในเกม H17 คุณควรตีเสมอ ไม่ว่าจะนับแต้มได้เท่าไรก็ตาม)
คุณถามว่าเหตุผลเบื้องหลังของดัชนี +1 ในเกม S17 คืออะไร?
การมีไพ่ใบเล็กน้อยลงทำให้การยืนไพ่ดีขึ้นในสองวิธีที่แตกต่างกัน ไพ่เลขหกน้อยลงหมายถึงโอกาสที่เจ้ามือจะมีไพ่เลขหกในมือซึ่งจะทำให้คุณชนะทันทีจะน้อยลง และไพ่เลขสองและสามน้อยลงหมายถึงโอกาสที่คุณจะปรับปรุงไพ่ A7 ของคุณด้วยการจั่วไพ่จะน้อยลง.
แต่โดยทั่วไปแล้ว อย่ากังวลมากเกินไปเกี่ยวกับ “เหตุผล” ของตัวเลขดัชนีหรือกลยุทธ์พื้นฐาน มันเป็นอย่างที่มันเป็น.
ขอบคุณสำหรับคำถามนี้ ฉันเพิ่งค้นพบว่าบัตรกลยุทธ์ขั้นสูงของฉันไม่มีดัชนีนี้! การพิมพ์ครั้งต่อไปจะแก้ไขให้ถูกต้อง.
อ๋อ เข้าใจแล้วครับ ผมคิดว่าคงไม่เป็นไรถ้าจะขอไพ่เพิ่มถ้ามีโอกาสสูงที่จะได้ 10 อย่างไรก็ตาม ผมคิดว่ายังมีโอกาสดีที่จะได้ 7, 8 หรือ 9 ซึ่งจะทำให้คุณอยู่ในสถานการณ์ที่ไม่ดีเมื่อนับแต้มแล้วเป็นบวก ขอบคุณครับ!
8 Decks Machine wash You can use it
Yes, basic strategy is the best way to play your hands, whether shuffled by hand or by machine, including continuous shuffle machines.
As for card counting, continuous shuffle machines eliminate the ability to count cards, but regular shuffle machines do not.
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Was in Vegas May 20-23. Bally’s has 3-2, 8 deck shoe, DH soft 17 & surrender. Started at $10 and progressively increased to $25 before I left. No grandfathering of bets though.
I plan on going to the Missouri casinos for blackjack. Are they beatable in the long run?
Last time I played in Missouri may have been 15 years ago. At that time, they still had a $500/hour buyin limit (I think that was abolished long ago.)
The games were fine though. I can’t say about the current situation. Let us know what you find.
เพื่อให้แน่ใจนะ.. 15 ต่อ 8 – ยืนที่ 10 หรือสูงกว่า หมายถึงการนับแบบรันนิ่งใช่ไหม? ฉันสับสน..
ไม่, ดัชนีกลยุทธ์ทั้งหมดใช้จำนวนจริง ไม่ใช่จำนวนสะสม ยืนที่ 15v8 เมื่อจำนวนจริงอยู่ที่ 10 หรือสูงกว่า (ซึ่งไม่ค่อยเกิดขึ้นบ่อย).
I’ve seen suggestions that one should surrender a hard 15 to dealer 10, except when player’s 15 is (7,8). Is this true? If so, why?
That’s correct, but only in single deck. In 1 deck, hit a hand of (7,8)vT, but surrender all the other 15vT hands.
Why? Well, your hand of (7,8) includes none of the cards you would like to receive as a hit card, while the other 15s do.
Again, this only matters in single deck, where the effect of a single card makes a bigger difference.
Forgive me as I’m a beginner. So when counting cards, the more negative the count, the more beneficial hitting the (7,8) would be since you seek the 5 and 6 from the other hard 15 combinations of the player.
Yes, negative counts would mean you are more likely to be able to improve the hand by hitting. This effect is however somewhat offset by the fact that the dealer is also less likely to bust if he has a small card under. But you’ve got the right idea.
In a 6D H17 game, you should hit 15vT in negative counts, but surrender at true counts of 0 or more.
WOW! Vegas is absolute shit now! And I keep dreaming about going there and trying out their blackjack tables. I currently reside in Hong Kong so I go to Macau to play and they have some, what I feel, pretty awesome rules namely: 50% surrender (unless dealer shows ace), black jack even pay (if you choose 1 to 1 surrender), Push on dealer and player blackjack, BJ pay out is 3-2, doubling after splitting is allowed, can double on any hand (some casinos only allows you to double at 11). And no tipping (house rules); if you tip, it goes directly to the casino.
I also went to Singapore Universal Studios and they have a casino there. They play Pontoon which is pretty awesome as well. All rules are the same except no “50% surrender of hands” but they have a nice perk of any 21 or black jack is an auto-win. So, for example, if dealer is showing an “A” and you have 10 and 2 and draw a 9 to reach a total of “21”, then you collect right away. How awesome is that!?
Anyway, I’ve only started playing recently. Good luck guys!