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I am nobody in the gambling the world and seen as a fool but under new supervision I have decided to put more research and depth into blackjack. Now I have so much negative experience putting my money on the tables and watching it exchanged for plastic cheques. Seeing my pile grow from its existing and watching it dwindle upon consecutive losses. What I do have to offer is some data and thoughts to think about for anyone who choses to read my comment. If this program is as similar as it is in the real casino could it actually be possible to win lots of money??? I am always under the suspicion that casinos can cheat and basically get away with it. I am not saying they do and if they were the only culprit is the computers running that shuffle the cards in such an order that does not always seem so random due to the natural variance in the game. I for a lot of time was against basic strategy but at same time maybe I did not know it well enough to be able to say such crazy things.
I played 151 hands on this simulator. profit +6100. now I won 66hands and lost 75. so win% was 44. the natural odds of this game with perfect basic strategy is .5 basically in favor of the house. now ask yourself how did I make so much money??? did I count and bet accordingly? I actually did nothing of any sort. I did something a lot more interesting. I some what of what bet progressively upon wins and losses but only went up in increments of 25. I played perfect basic strategy. when I won a couple of hands I increased my bet 25. when I lost say 4 in a row I increased my bet 25 until getting back up to what I was down etc. then when I felt it was smart to just drop down to base I did so basically. I did this over and over again regardless of win or loss streak. if your playing a game with natural set odds this may be a way to just overcome it because you get the bonus of double downs and blackjacks. you as well get the security when you surrender. this way of playing blackjack can really only be played at card rooms and even then the need to offer 3/2 on bj because at indian casinos you do not get that surrender value
I absolutely agree but at the same time you are not looking at the overall negative play on the game itself and how to use it to your advantage. it has nothing to do with card counting actually. like right now I am trying this test again. I have won 7 hands out of 27. I am of course down money and 100 actually. I am as well at the 150 mark of betting. how long theoretically would it take to be back up? I am playing on a 6 deck shoe and I am just about 50% in
Each of your bets have a -0.50% expected value. Therefore you’re going to lose 0.50% of the total amount you wagered over the long run. Regardless of how you wager it.
49 hands played. won 25 lost 20. I lost majority of my bigger bets and I lost most of the double downs. I as well only went to max bet 225. but in 1 shoe still had a profit of over 1012.5. heres why this data is garbage and its because I won more hands then I lost. what the most important is losing more hands then winning but in set period of time before even raising. I as well had a few blackjacks and the dealer had some blackjacks. blackjacks are theoretically 1/21 hands
You played 49 hands. Like you said “this data is garbage…” a sample size so small is virtually useless in determining anything. I don’t even know why you posted after only playing 49 hands.
so it takes overall about 20,000 hands to have any sort of data that is relatively average of what your mathematical expectation should be if you were to card count with an advantage. so I played 1 shoe and lost -1100. I flat betted 100%. I won 14 hands and lost 33. my winning % was 28 which is below average expectation. I as well lost my double downs so that is why I was down so much money just on a short sample
this data is actually not garbage and important data and I will tell you why. blackjack is a negative expectation game. you are going to lose money in the long run. the only edge one can have is counting cards. even then edge is maybe 1-2% overall and the play differs from basic strategy. so therefore one will make no money flat betting period unless they just happen to win more hands then they lose and they as well win double downs. it could go just as much the other direction and basically will be
46hands I made a profit of 800. I started at 50. highest bet I got to was 150. I won 23 lost 21. so 50% winning which is above the expectation. I did lost most of my bigger bets but I got some double downs and I as well won my smaller ones to build up to the back and forth with the same until I got a few momentum
trial 3 $462.5 profit biggest bet was 125. won 21 lost 20 played 48hands. lost most of my double downs. had 43% accuracy. I never went back to base and was down over 2-300 at a time
trial 4 -$762.5. which is totally reasonable. my highest bet was 150. I lost most of my bigger bets. I lost the most double downs I had lost so far. I as well only had a win %37. which would mean no matter what I would have lost money on any sort of betting.
Я не розумію, навіщо людям потрібна така незграбна і метушлива математика та програмне забезпечення, коли справа доходить до азартних ігор. Для мене азартні ігри - це просто розвага, де ви хочете виграти, але не заробити, знаючи очікувані втрати, які ви готові понести. Це складна математика, коли ми говоримо про ймовірність. Коли щось є невизначеним, просто насолоджуйтеся невизначеністю. Не турбуйтеся про неї більше.
Кращий спосіб пояснити це так. Джонні Невіглас каже, що йому треба побити. Замість того, щоб дилер віддав йому наступну карту з колоди, він пропонує вам вибрати будь-яку карту з колоди, що залишилася, і віддати її Джонні. Чи варто вам скористатися цією можливістю? Наступна карта і та, яку ви виберете, знаходяться в одній і тій же позиції в колоді з моменту тасування. Якщо ви думаєте, що у цих двох карт у цих двох позиціях зараз різні шанси стати 10, то це також було вірно для цих двох карт одразу після тасування. Кожна карта в колоді має однаковий шанс стати 10 після тасування. Ви не довіряєте тасуванню?
я грав у блек-джек у казино в Садбері. коли я розділив дві карти з обличчям, автомат сказав мені грати кожну карту окремо, як дві окремі руки, але коли я розділив два тузи, автомат дав мені по одній карті на кожного туза, а потім зіграв свою руку, не дозволивши мені зіграти тузи взагалі. чи це звичайна практика?
I agree, I’ve found playing short rounds, betting to make up for losses and stopping after the winning streak of that session leaves me ahead every time and usual with a small decent haul of sometimes 200 to 300 dollars over the course of an hour. If i had 10’s of thousands of dollars to blow could see that small haul exponentially being impressive, but in reality with a small gambling egg and playing perfectly with all the tiny bonuses in your favor your winnings are equivalent to an hourly mediocre job through the course of a day. The biggest rule I feel that doesn’t work and I ignore but statistically has the law of probability in its favor is holding on 12 to 16 hoping the dealer breaks. Mathematically its theory is probably good on paper but in reality the dealer mostly always comes out ahead.
I am nobody in the gambling the world and seen as a fool but under new supervision I have decided to put more research and depth into blackjack. Now I have so much negative experience putting my money on the tables and watching it exchanged for plastic cheques. Seeing my pile grow from its existing and watching it dwindle upon consecutive losses. What I do have to offer is some data and thoughts to think about for anyone who choses to read my comment. If this program is as similar as it is in the real casino could it actually be possible to win lots of money??? I am always under the suspicion that casinos can cheat and basically get away with it. I am not saying they do and if they were the only culprit is the computers running that shuffle the cards in such an order that does not always seem so random due to the natural variance in the game. I for a lot of time was against basic strategy but at same time maybe I did not know it well enough to be able to say such crazy things.
I played 151 hands on this simulator. profit +6100. now I won 66hands and lost 75. so win% was 44. the natural odds of this game with perfect basic strategy is .5 basically in favor of the house. now ask yourself how did I make so much money??? did I count and bet accordingly? I actually did nothing of any sort. I did something a lot more interesting. I some what of what bet progressively upon wins and losses but only went up in increments of 25. I played perfect basic strategy. when I won a couple of hands I increased my bet 25. when I lost say 4 in a row I increased my bet 25 until getting back up to what I was down etc. then when I felt it was smart to just drop down to base I did so basically. I did this over and over again regardless of win or loss streak. if your playing a game with natural set odds this may be a way to just overcome it because you get the bonus of double downs and blackjacks. you as well get the security when you surrender. this way of playing blackjack can really only be played at card rooms and even then the need to offer 3/2 on bj because at indian casinos you do not get that surrender value
Progressive betting systems don’t work. If you play long enough you will lose.
I absolutely agree but at the same time you are not looking at the overall negative play on the game itself and how to use it to your advantage. it has nothing to do with card counting actually. like right now I am trying this test again. I have won 7 hands out of 27. I am of course down money and 100 actually. I am as well at the 150 mark of betting. how long theoretically would it take to be back up? I am playing on a 6 deck shoe and I am just about 50% in
Each of your bets have a -0.50% expected value. Therefore you’re going to lose 0.50% of the total amount you wagered over the long run. Regardless of how you wager it.
You should read this: https://www.gamblingsites.com/systems-strategies/progressive-betting/
and this : http://www.vegasgamblesonline.com/why-progressive-gambling.html
I can guarantee you that if you keep playing you’re going to lose. It becomes literally impossible for you to win if you play enough hands because of the law of large numbers. Which is this http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/law-of-large-numbers
49 hands played. won 25 lost 20. I lost majority of my bigger bets and I lost most of the double downs. I as well only went to max bet 225. but in 1 shoe still had a profit of over 1012.5. heres why this data is garbage and its because I won more hands then I lost. what the most important is losing more hands then winning but in set period of time before even raising. I as well had a few blackjacks and the dealer had some blackjacks. blackjacks are theoretically 1/21 hands
You played 49 hands. Like you said “this data is garbage…” a sample size so small is virtually useless in determining anything. I don’t even know why you posted after only playing 49 hands.
so it takes overall about 20,000 hands to have any sort of data that is relatively average of what your mathematical expectation should be if you were to card count with an advantage. so I played 1 shoe and lost -1100. I flat betted 100%. I won 14 hands and lost 33. my winning % was 28 which is below average expectation. I as well lost my double downs so that is why I was down so much money just on a short sample
this data is actually not garbage and important data and I will tell you why. blackjack is a negative expectation game. you are going to lose money in the long run. the only edge one can have is counting cards. even then edge is maybe 1-2% overall and the play differs from basic strategy. so therefore one will make no money flat betting period unless they just happen to win more hands then they lose and they as well win double downs. it could go just as much the other direction and basically will be
46hands I made a profit of 800. I started at 50. highest bet I got to was 150. I won 23 lost 21. so 50% winning which is above the expectation. I did lost most of my bigger bets but I got some double downs and I as well won my smaller ones to build up to the back and forth with the same until I got a few momentum
trial 2 made 350 and biggest bet was 150. lost most of my bigger bets but had a 44% accuracy which is around expectation
trial 3 $462.5 profit biggest bet was 125. won 21 lost 20 played 48hands. lost most of my double downs. had 43% accuracy. I never went back to base and was down over 2-300 at a time
trial 4 -$762.5. which is totally reasonable. my highest bet was 150. I lost most of my bigger bets. I lost the most double downs I had lost so far. I as well only had a win %37. which would mean no matter what I would have lost money on any sort of betting.
Я виграв 56% з моїх рук 27 виграних і 18 програних. прибуток склав +$1237.5. виграв тільки 1 подвійний даун з 4. ставив на 1
Чи готовий я кинути виклик казино? Казино, яке я збираюся обіграти, повинно забрати 2 колоди з їхнього 6-колодного башмака, а не лише одну.
Я не розумію, навіщо людям потрібна така незграбна і метушлива математика та програмне забезпечення, коли справа доходить до азартних ігор. Для мене азартні ігри - це просто розвага, де ви хочете виграти, але не заробити, знаючи очікувані втрати, які ви готові понести. Це складна математика, коли ми говоримо про ймовірність. Коли щось є невизначеним, просто насолоджуйтеся невизначеністю. Не турбуйтеся про неї більше.
Якщо у дилера блек-джек, а він каже, що у нього його немає, а гра продовжується, і ви отримуєте 21, як ви можете подати апеляцію?
Кращий спосіб пояснити це так. Джонні Невіглас каже, що йому треба побити. Замість того, щоб дилер віддав йому наступну карту з колоди, він пропонує вам вибрати будь-яку карту з колоди, що залишилася, і віддати її Джонні. Чи варто вам скористатися цією можливістю? Наступна карта і та, яку ви виберете, знаходяться в одній і тій же позиції в колоді з моменту тасування. Якщо ви думаєте, що у цих двох карт у цих двох позиціях зараз різні шанси стати 10, то це також було вірно для цих двох карт одразу після тасування. Кожна карта в колоді має однаковий шанс стати 10 після тасування. Ви не довіряєте тасуванню?
я грав у блек-джек у казино в Садбері. коли я розділив дві карти з обличчям, автомат сказав мені грати кожну карту окремо, як дві окремі руки, але коли я розділив два тузи, автомат дав мені по одній карті на кожного туза, а потім зіграв свою руку, не дозволивши мені зіграти тузи взагалі. чи це звичайна практика?
I agree, I’ve found playing short rounds, betting to make up for losses and stopping after the winning streak of that session leaves me ahead every time and usual with a small decent haul of sometimes 200 to 300 dollars over the course of an hour. If i had 10’s of thousands of dollars to blow could see that small haul exponentially being impressive, but in reality with a small gambling egg and playing perfectly with all the tiny bonuses in your favor your winnings are equivalent to an hourly mediocre job through the course of a day. The biggest rule I feel that doesn’t work and I ignore but statistically has the law of probability in its favor is holding on 12 to 16 hoping the dealer breaks. Mathematically its theory is probably good on paper but in reality the dealer mostly always comes out ahead.