Ken:
I would like to thank you for your knowledge and course. I read the course did the practice and it payed off big. Had a large bankroll to start $25k and get comps. in Vegas due to my slot losses on previous trips. I looked on websites for lowest house advantage, and started at Bellagio (-.252)6 Deck $25 game, dealer stands soft 17, DAS, Surrender, all the right rules. Played for six hours and noticed was being watched by pit boss after and hour( I am sure I was obvious as first time playing with all the rules and high low together), I varied my play using a 25-250 spread. I was up so I started tipping, staying higher bet after shuffle even made a few questionable plays as I knew they were on to me. Stayed for three days was up $6200 in about 30 hours of play at four casinos. (bellagio, MGM, Teasure Island and Aria)
Was wondering for a beginner like me what other advice you have to not look so obvious a counter to the man.
Thanks again!
The number one way to extend your playing lifetime is to keep your sessions short. If possible, spread your action across casinos and across shifts and keep your sessions just under an hour.
Great forum.very helpfull for us rookies !!ken an expert counter as u how many hours can he stand playing continiusly with out making mistake or have mental issues?
The issue quickly becomes not how many hours you can play accurately, but instead how many hours you SHOULD play. If you have enough places to spread your play around, I strongly suggest hit and run short sessions of just under an hour. I realize that’s impractical for most players, but it really helps on your ability to continue to be allowed to play. As for the general idea of your question, once you really get comfortable counting, you could play for long stretches with minimal effort.
it does affect you. when the count is rich in tens, the crazy counter spread to 5 hands by way of using his friends, it affects you getting a stiff hand if your 3rd base. He would take all the tens in front of you. these so called myths are truths because there is no calculations of bet size into the equation. A person losing 2000 bucks in that one mistake hand does affect their game. It just cost him 2000 bucks of bankroll. So all the bs that is said to only affect one hand is wrong. That 2000 bucks are valued to many hands that can be played. So in and out proves it affects you. one vs one hand it don’t affect you. but when you have more hands it does as each card dealer gets changes the outcome for each player. it’s dealer’s card change affect all players not just affecting one player.
I removed your latest post because it was a lengthy restatement of your original erroneous ideas. Obviously I am wasting my time responding to you. Believe whatever you like.
Well, you make one valid point amidst a lot of misunderstanding. You are correct that a counter who spreads to multiple hands in good counts will hurt the other players at the table. This is true, simply because he is using up more of the available hands before the shuffle and those hands are advantageous because of the count. This is NOT because he is more likely to “take all the tens in front of you”. The early spots are no more likely to get the excess tens than the later spots.
Try this thought experiment. Make a deck of five face cards and one Ace. Shuffle the six cards and deal one card to each person at the table. Who’s most likely to get the Ace? No one. They’re all equally likely to get the Ace.
My post above is talking about the fact that how another player PLAYS their hand can not affect your long-term result. If instead they are adding or removing hands based on the count, they will affect your long-term result. Those are two different things.
Last of all, you say that my article is somehow flawed because it doesn’t consider bet size. That makes no sense. What’s true for $1 is true for $1000.
Everywhere the same idiots !!i am not angry with them.i feel sad for them ti play likr they do and throwing theim money !play always basic strategy against card machines and learn count fir the shoes
เคน, ,
ฉันมีที่เล่นแปดสำรับ, H17, DAS Later Surrender, Peek, การเจาะ 75 %. .
ฉันสามารถขึ้นโต๊ะได้เมื่อคุณเห็นว่าเหมาะสม.
การเดิมพันคงที่ $ 100 เมื่อการนับอยู่เหนือ +1 กำไรทฤษฎีของฉันหลังจากเดิมพัน 1,000 มือคืออะไร?
โดยใช้ Hi-Lo และ Sweet 16 (Illustrious 18 ลบสิบสปลิต), H17 DAS LS 75%, เดิมพันเฉพาะเมื่อนับจริง +1 หรือสูงกว่าที่ $100, กำไรของคุณคือ $75 ต่อ 100 มือ ความเสี่ยงระยะยาวของคุณที่จะล้มละลายด้วยเงินทุน $20K คือ 5%.
แต่คำถามของคุณคือ กำไรที่คาดหวังหลังจาก 1000 มือ: นั่นคือ $750.
ขอบคุณ!
ความได้เปรียบประมาณ 0.75%.
Ken:
I would like to thank you for your knowledge and course. I read the course did the practice and it payed off big. Had a large bankroll to start $25k and get comps. in Vegas due to my slot losses on previous trips. I looked on websites for lowest house advantage, and started at Bellagio (-.252)6 Deck $25 game, dealer stands soft 17, DAS, Surrender, all the right rules. Played for six hours and noticed was being watched by pit boss after and hour( I am sure I was obvious as first time playing with all the rules and high low together), I varied my play using a 25-250 spread. I was up so I started tipping, staying higher bet after shuffle even made a few questionable plays as I knew they were on to me. Stayed for three days was up $6200 in about 30 hours of play at four casinos. (bellagio, MGM, Teasure Island and Aria)
Was wondering for a beginner like me what other advice you have to not look so obvious a counter to the man.
Thanks again!
The number one way to extend your playing lifetime is to keep your sessions short. If possible, spread your action across casinos and across shifts and keep your sessions just under an hour.
ฟอรั่มยอดเยี่ยมมาก !!!จนถึงตอนนี้สิ่งที่ผมได้อ่านทำให้เรื่องต่างๆ ชัดเจนขึ้นในหัวของผม ขอบคุณมากครับ
Great forum.very helpfull for us rookies !!ken an expert counter as u how many hours can he stand playing continiusly with out making mistake or have mental issues?
The issue quickly becomes not how many hours you can play accurately, but instead how many hours you SHOULD play. If you have enough places to spread your play around, I strongly suggest hit and run short sessions of just under an hour. I realize that’s impractical for most players, but it really helps on your ability to continue to be allowed to play. As for the general idea of your question, once you really get comfortable counting, you could play for long stretches with minimal effort.
ตั้งแต่ฉันค้นพบเว็บไซต์นี้ ฉันก็หยุดอ่านไม่ได้เลย!!! ข้อมูลดีๆ ทั้งหมดนี้ในแบล็คแจ็คยุโรป ดีลเลอร์ไม่มีการ “ซ่อน” ไพ่ใบล่าง ตัวเลือกการยอมแพ้ยังใช้ได้ที่นี่หรือไม่? ฉันเห็นความแตกต่างระหว่างยุโรปและอเมริกันในไพ่ B.S และฉันคิดว่าประเด็นสำคัญคือ การจั่วหรือไม่จั่วที่ S17 ใช่ไหม? ในความคิดเห็นของคุณ BJ แบบไหนดีกว่าสำหรับผู้เล่น สหรัฐอเมริกาหรือยุโรป? ขอบคุณสำหรับเวลาของคุณในการตอบ! หวังว่าจะได้พบคุณจริงๆ และดูว่าคุณทำลายคาสิโนได้อย่างไร!
it does affect you. when the count is rich in tens, the crazy counter spread to 5 hands by way of using his friends, it affects you getting a stiff hand if your 3rd base. He would take all the tens in front of you. these so called myths are truths because there is no calculations of bet size into the equation. A person losing 2000 bucks in that one mistake hand does affect their game. It just cost him 2000 bucks of bankroll. So all the bs that is said to only affect one hand is wrong. That 2000 bucks are valued to many hands that can be played. So in and out proves it affects you. one vs one hand it don’t affect you. but when you have more hands it does as each card dealer gets changes the outcome for each player. it’s dealer’s card change affect all players not just affecting one player.
I removed your latest post because it was a lengthy restatement of your original erroneous ideas. Obviously I am wasting my time responding to you. Believe whatever you like.
Well, you make one valid point amidst a lot of misunderstanding. You are correct that a counter who spreads to multiple hands in good counts will hurt the other players at the table. This is true, simply because he is using up more of the available hands before the shuffle and those hands are advantageous because of the count. This is NOT because he is more likely to “take all the tens in front of you”. The early spots are no more likely to get the excess tens than the later spots.
Try this thought experiment. Make a deck of five face cards and one Ace. Shuffle the six cards and deal one card to each person at the table. Who’s most likely to get the Ace? No one. They’re all equally likely to get the Ace.
My post above is talking about the fact that how another player PLAYS their hand can not affect your long-term result. If instead they are adding or removing hands based on the count, they will affect your long-term result. Those are two different things.
Last of all, you say that my article is somehow flawed because it doesn’t consider bet size. That makes no sense. What’s true for $1 is true for $1000.
สวัสดีเพื่อน, มีคำถามสั้น ๆ หน่อย..
คุณเพิ่มเงินเดิมพันของคุณในอัตราเท่าไหร่?
ถ้าผมเล่นด้วยเงินเดิมพัน £5 ในเกมไพ่ 6 สำรับ ผมควรเพิ่มเงินเดิมพันเป็น £10-£30 เมื่อนับไพ่จริงได้ 1 หรือไม่? หรือควรเพิ่มเมื่อได้ 2, 3, 4 หรือมากกว่านั้น?.
ต้องมีระบบที่คุณใช้เพื่อกำหนดจุดก้าวขึ้นใช่ไหม?
ขอบคุณ ลุค
บทเรียนถัดไปจะครอบคลุมเรื่องนี้อย่างละเอียด วิธีการที่ง่ายแต่ได้ผลดีคือค่อยๆ เพิ่มเดิมพันจากขั้นต่ำของคุณไปจนถึงสูงสุดเมื่อจำนวนนับที่แท้จริงเพิ่มขึ้นจาก +1 เป็น +5.
Nice !!
Everywhere the same idiots !!i am not angry with them.i feel sad for them ti play likr they do and throwing theim money !play always basic strategy against card machines and learn count fir the shoes
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ใช่ครับ/ค่ะ ถูกต้องแล้ว.
ดังนั้นสำหรับพื้น หากคุณมี 4 เด็คที่เหลืออยู่และนับแต้มรวมได้ -3 จะถือว่าแต้มจริงเป็น -1 และนับแต้มรวมได้ -5 จะเล่นเป็นแต้มจริง -2 และต่อไปเช่นนั้นใช่ไหม?
Ack! No! This is a horrible idea. Read this:
เพิ่มเงินเดิมพันเป็นสองเท่าเมื่อได้ไพ่แบล็กแจ็ก 6:5? อ่านสิ่งนี้ก่อน...