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Hi, thank you very much for the article, it has been very helpful.
I have a question about the difference between 10-6 and 9-7 vs 10. You explain the difference by the fact that in the 10-6 vs 10 hand these are two extra 10’s out of the game. But it seems to me that those two tens should already have been counted in to your current true count and thus by differentiating between the two hands you one would be double counting?
In other words, Why should I play differently in these two situations: 1) dealer: 10-x, me: 10-6, player 2: 9-7 and 2) dealer: 10-x, me; 9-7, player 2; 10-6. Both situations would influence the count in exactly the same way, wouldn’t they?
Good question. I don’t see the point in having separate indexes for those two specific hands either. And, as noted in another reply, I have not verified the accuracy of these Hi-Opt 1 indexes, and I am quite skeptical of the big difference between (10,6) and (9,7) vs T. If single deck is in your plans, I would look around for verification before using either of those. If you use Hi-Lo instead, the indexes on my advanced card set are very well-tested. I trust them much more.
Really nice interview Ken, I agree that counting prepares the mindset for other casino games. I still prefer the blackjack strategy guides on this site over POGGs ones, though he has some nice video poker ones. K.
Supongo que pregunta por el acceso a los gráficos en su smartphone en el casino. No se lo recomiendo. En EE.UU. hay leyes que prohíben el uso de dispositivos en los juegos de azar. La mayoría de estas leyes se basan en la versión de Nevada, que está redactada de tal forma que podría interpretarse que se refiere incluso a algo tan inofensivo como consultar una estrategia. Usted no quiere ser el caso de prueba de esto. Si quieres tener acceso a la estrategia en el casino, mejor consigue una tarjeta de plástico.
Hola. Tengo una pregunta que no he sido capaz de encontrar una respuesta también. Puede ser demasiado obvio.
Escenario 6D Juego H17
Mis 2 primeras cartas son A6 contra 10. Me golpeó y obtener un 9 y ahora tengo un total de 16
Así que 16 contra 10. Ahora debería rendirme ¿correcto?
En mis aplicaciones de práctica dice que jugué mal pero 16 vs 10 debería ser una rendición.
¿No se aplica la estrategia básica en este caso?
Muchas gracias por toda la ayuda
Paul
Si se le permitiera rendirse (As,6,9) contra T, sería la jugada correcta. Desgraciadamente, la rendición sólo está permitida en las dos primeras cartas, antes de realizar cualquier otra acción. No mencionas qué aplicación de práctica utilizas, pero en este caso ni siquiera debería haber un botón para rendirse.
Gracias
Esa era la cuestión principal. Si podías o no rendirte después de haber recibido un golpe.
Al principio pensé que eso era la rendición "tardía".
Pero ahora sé que rendirse tarde significa después de que el crupier haya visto su carta descubierta al mostrar un as.
La aplicación que estoy usando es 21-Pro. Mantiene la cuenta y hace un seguimiento de las manos jugadas utilizando una estrategia básica adecuada.
Gracias de nuevo.
En muchos casos, cuando digo "apuestas pequeñas", me refiero a apuestas mínimas o no más del doble. En algunos casos, cuando toda la mesa está haciendo grandes apuestas, puede apostar bastante más y seguir apostando "poco". Sin embargo, en general, no es conveniente hacer apuestas tempranas que puedan hacer que te quedes sin fichas.
It sounds like you have generated a strategy for a “no-peek” game using the strategy engine or trainer. In that case the plays you mention are correct.
But if you are playing a standard US-style game, make sure you choose “peek” instead. The strategy for those hands will then change.
Edited to add: It looks like you are probably in the UK, where no-peek is the norm. As my charts indicate, don’t split against a dealer Ace, because you could lose both bets to a dealer blackjack. (Against a ten, only split aces.) That can’t happen in a peek game.
I am 20 and I have just started playing blackjack. Your site has been extremely helpful, in the past two weeks I have gone through all the lessons and have done all the homework. I am counting five decks, ten times a day and I am also practicing game situations regularly. Tomorrow, I am hoping to try my luck at the local casino with my new knowledge. Now I think I can count without a problem at the casino because the dealers are extremely slow especially the ones covering the early shift. However, I would like to ask you a question about penetration which I am not certain of. Now the dealer at the casino puts the cards from the discard tray into the shoe after every hand so does that mean that to calculate my true count, I would always have to divide by five as they use five decks.
Please help me
I have bad news. The game you describe is using a continuous shuffle machine, which means that recently used cards can re-appear in the game immediately. Since the deck composition does not change over time as it does in a non-CSM game, this game cannot be beaten with card counting. You will need to find games that do not use a CSM to be able to count cards. (To specifically answer your question, you would indeed always divide by five, but you would also need to zero out your running count after each and every hand, because the entire five decks is essentially reshuffled constantly.)
I do have a question, After calculating the true count, will you continue counting with the true count or the running count?
for example:
1 deck is been played in a 6 deck shoe, and the running count is 5, you divide 5 /5 = a true count of 1. after the dealer begins to deal again, will you continue the running count of 5 of start with the true count of 1?
Just as the post above says… The number of spots in play, plus the number of rounds dealt, equals six. If three spots are in play, they will be dealt three hands between shuffles. If there are four spots in play, they will get two hands between shuffles.
Hi, thank you very much for the article, it has been very helpful.
I have a question about the difference between 10-6 and 9-7 vs 10. You explain the difference by the fact that in the 10-6 vs 10 hand these are two extra 10’s out of the game. But it seems to me that those two tens should already have been counted in to your current true count and thus by differentiating between the two hands you one would be double counting?
In other words, Why should I play differently in these two situations: 1) dealer: 10-x, me: 10-6, player 2: 9-7 and 2) dealer: 10-x, me; 9-7, player 2; 10-6. Both situations would influence the count in exactly the same way, wouldn’t they?
Good question. I don’t see the point in having separate indexes for those two specific hands either. And, as noted in another reply, I have not verified the accuracy of these Hi-Opt 1 indexes, and I am quite skeptical of the big difference between (10,6) and (9,7) vs T. If single deck is in your plans, I would look around for verification before using either of those. If you use Hi-Lo instead, the indexes on my advanced card set are very well-tested. I trust them much more.
Really nice interview Ken, I agree that counting prepares the mindset for other casino games. I still prefer the blackjack strategy guides on this site over POGGs ones, though he has some nice video poker ones. K.
¿puedo llevar su motor de estrategia de black jack al casino? o ¿no está permitido?
Supongo que pregunta por el acceso a los gráficos en su smartphone en el casino. No se lo recomiendo. En EE.UU. hay leyes que prohíben el uso de dispositivos en los juegos de azar. La mayoría de estas leyes se basan en la versión de Nevada, que está redactada de tal forma que podría interpretarse que se refiere incluso a algo tan inofensivo como consultar una estrategia. Usted no quiere ser el caso de prueba de esto. Si quieres tener acceso a la estrategia en el casino, mejor consigue una tarjeta de plástico.
Ya veo, tienes algo muy bueno por aquí 🙂 .
gracias..
Hola. Tengo una pregunta que no he sido capaz de encontrar una respuesta también. Puede ser demasiado obvio.
Escenario 6D Juego H17
Mis 2 primeras cartas son A6 contra 10. Me golpeó y obtener un 9 y ahora tengo un total de 16
Así que 16 contra 10. Ahora debería rendirme ¿correcto?
En mis aplicaciones de práctica dice que jugué mal pero 16 vs 10 debería ser una rendición.
¿No se aplica la estrategia básica en este caso?
Muchas gracias por toda la ayuda
Paul
Si se le permitiera rendirse (As,6,9) contra T, sería la jugada correcta. Desgraciadamente, la rendición sólo está permitida en las dos primeras cartas, antes de realizar cualquier otra acción. No mencionas qué aplicación de práctica utilizas, pero en este caso ni siquiera debería haber un botón para rendirse.
Gracias
Esa era la cuestión principal. Si podías o no rendirte después de haber recibido un golpe.
Al principio pensé que eso era la rendición "tardía".
Pero ahora sé que rendirse tarde significa después de que el crupier haya visto su carta descubierta al mostrar un as.
La aplicación que estoy usando es 21-Pro. Mantiene la cuenta y hace un seguimiento de las manos jugadas utilizando una estrategia básica adecuada.
Gracias de nuevo.
¡Ken!
Hola estoy agradecido de encontrarme con su página muy útil. Cuando dices apuesta pequeña, a que cantidad te refieres, usamos fichas $25.
En muchos casos, cuando digo "apuestas pequeñas", me refiero a apuestas mínimas o no más del doble. En algunos casos, cuando toda la mesa está haciendo grandes apuestas, puede apostar bastante más y seguir apostando "poco". Sin embargo, en general, no es conveniente hacer apuestas tempranas que puedan hacer que te quedes sin fichas.
Why dont you advise splitting 8s on ten and ace and ace on ace like other srategys thanks
It sounds like you have generated a strategy for a “no-peek” game using the strategy engine or trainer. In that case the plays you mention are correct.
But if you are playing a standard US-style game, make sure you choose “peek” instead. The strategy for those hands will then change.
Edited to add: It looks like you are probably in the UK, where no-peek is the norm. As my charts indicate, don’t split against a dealer Ace, because you could lose both bets to a dealer blackjack. (Against a ten, only split aces.) That can’t happen in a peek game.
Dear Sir
I am 20 and I have just started playing blackjack. Your site has been extremely helpful, in the past two weeks I have gone through all the lessons and have done all the homework. I am counting five decks, ten times a day and I am also practicing game situations regularly. Tomorrow, I am hoping to try my luck at the local casino with my new knowledge. Now I think I can count without a problem at the casino because the dealers are extremely slow especially the ones covering the early shift. However, I would like to ask you a question about penetration which I am not certain of. Now the dealer at the casino puts the cards from the discard tray into the shoe after every hand so does that mean that to calculate my true count, I would always have to divide by five as they use five decks.
Please help me
I have bad news. The game you describe is using a continuous shuffle machine, which means that recently used cards can re-appear in the game immediately. Since the deck composition does not change over time as it does in a non-CSM game, this game cannot be beaten with card counting. You will need to find games that do not use a CSM to be able to count cards. (To specifically answer your question, you would indeed always divide by five, but you would also need to zero out your running count after each and every hand, because the entire five decks is essentially reshuffled constantly.)
I do have a question, After calculating the true count, will you continue counting with the true count or the running count?
for example:
1 deck is been played in a 6 deck shoe, and the running count is 5, you divide 5 /5 = a true count of 1. after the dealer begins to deal again, will you continue the running count of 5 of start with the true count of 1?
You always track the running count. You convert to true count for betting and playing decisions, but resume your count with the current running count.
what does “it deals to the rule of six” mean? I am translating a paper and I don´t know how to put it in Spanish.
Gracias de antemano.
Just as the post above says… The number of spots in play, plus the number of rounds dealt, equals six. If three spots are in play, they will be dealt three hands between shuffles. If there are four spots in play, they will get two hands between shuffles.
Lo he utilizado en la mesa muchas veces y los jefes de box me han dicho que es perfectamente legal. Ningún problema.