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“The effect of surrender for an accurate basic strategy player is to reduce the house edge by somewhere between 0.07% and 0.09% depending on the other rules of the game. If you are a $10 bettor, you should save about 50 cents an hour over the long run. While this improvement is small, every little bit helps. For a card counter, surrender is considerably more valuable for several reasons.”
What is the percentage of reduction if I am a card counter?
The amount of benefit surrender provides for a counter depends on almost everything that can change in the game, penetration, bet spread, etc. There is no convenient one-size-fits-all answer, and I don’t have an estimate at hand. If you need an answer, get some software to check your specific conditions.
Wait a min…is the advanced strategy card(s) what I think is is??? Is this the basic deviations based on true count on a card? Already bought three of the basic cards some time ago…I didn’t know what deviations were at the time…I do now…lol.
This question was actually answered above. You can use the same indexes in a no-peek game, except ignore any that suggest splitting or doubling against a dealer ten or ace.
ok but what about the advanced strategy, how can i adjust to the count? Like, should i still stand a soft 18 against dealer A at TC>1 ? and hard 14,15,16 against dealer A is still stand at TC> 9 , 9 , 8 ? or any other changes? you know better
The question is are all your doubled and split bets vulnerable to an eventual dealer blackjack. If so, it’s a “no peek” game. Use the Strategy Engine set to No Peek to get the correct basic strategy.
So , in a game where the dealer gets only 1 card and he draws the other one only after every player stands (kinda the same as the “no peek” i guess) , what should we do? Should we still double 11 against that dealer’s Ace ? Does this affects other decisions against Ace ?
As for the online casino I’m playing, the penetration varies from 70-83% , usually around 75% (pretty good) and the decks are opened in front of you, you see all the cards, and then they shufle them in front of you.
I guess I’ll continue playing till I have more of a sample than the 70k euros (i beliene its around 10-11k bets), I can afford to lose some more money 😛
I watched your link and I have 1 more question if I may. If only at TC 18+ you win a bet more often than you lose, how is it possible to make money (I’ve never seen TC more than 9)? Again thank you for your time!
“The effect of surrender for an accurate basic strategy player is to reduce the house edge by somewhere between 0.07% and 0.09% depending on the other rules of the game. If you are a $10 bettor, you should save about 50 cents an hour over the long run. While this improvement is small, every little bit helps. For a card counter, surrender is considerably more valuable for several reasons.”
What is the percentage of reduction if I am a card counter?
The amount of benefit surrender provides for a counter depends on almost everything that can change in the game, penetration, bet spread, etc. There is no convenient one-size-fits-all answer, and I don’t have an estimate at hand. If you need an answer, get some software to check your specific conditions.
Doesn’t work with current version of .NET
That’s why it says to install the older version! It requires .NET framework version 1.1. Use the link in the article to find and install it.
Which would you indicate?
CVData from qfit.com is the gold standard. CVCX is a slightly less expensive option that handles many simulation questions.
@observer just use hi-opt 1. It’s simpler, better, and ignoring aces and deuces helps reduce the correlation with hi-lo.
Wait a min…is the advanced strategy card(s) what I think is is??? Is this the basic deviations based on true count on a card? Already bought three of the basic cards some time ago…I didn’t know what deviations were at the time…I do now…lol.
Yes, the advanced cards include the normal basic strategy, plus all of the Hi-Lo index numbers between -5 and +5. 🙂
How does it affect the game if the player can only split once , not multiple times?
The strategy does not change, but the player is worse off by around 0.1% if you are not allowed to resplit.
@Glen,
You may be pleased to know that Tunica Roadhouse, next door to Horseshoe Tunica, has a $3 table with normal beatable rules.
This question was actually answered above. You can use the same indexes in a no-peek game, except ignore any that suggest splitting or doubling against a dealer ten or ace.
ok but what about the advanced strategy, how can i adjust to the count? Like, should i still stand a soft 18 against dealer A at TC>1 ? and hard 14,15,16 against dealer A is still stand at TC> 9 , 9 , 8 ? or any other changes? you know better
The question is are all your doubled and split bets vulnerable to an eventual dealer blackjack. If so, it’s a “no peek” game. Use the Strategy Engine set to No Peek to get the correct basic strategy.
So , in a game where the dealer gets only 1 card and he draws the other one only after every player stands (kinda the same as the “no peek” i guess) , what should we do? Should we still double 11 against that dealer’s Ace ? Does this affects other decisions against Ace ?
See Blackjack Surrender Explained
How do you make money without winning over 50% of hands? Blackjack pays 3:2. Doubles and splits. That’s it.
Its 6decks, DA2, DAS, No surrender, No re-split
Also i always take insurrance at TC>3
As for the online casino I’m playing, the penetration varies from 70-83% , usually around 75% (pretty good) and the decks are opened in front of you, you see all the cards, and then they shufle them in front of you.
I guess I’ll continue playing till I have more of a sample than the 70k euros (i beliene its around 10-11k bets), I can afford to lose some more money 😛
I watched your link and I have 1 more question if I may. If only at TC 18+ you win a bet more often than you lose, how is it possible to make money (I’ve never seen TC more than 9)? Again thank you for your time!